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Old January 30th 07, 05:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Aluckyguess wrote:
"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2007-01-30, Judah wrote:
Or will the FAA take action against him for operating an aircraft
for which
he is not properly rated?


At this point who really cares about the FAA. The only thing
important is if the flight attendant is hot and wants to fulfill the
rest of the fantasy.


This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for emergencies and
not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines train at least senior
FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second pair of eyes/hands?


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Old January 30th 07, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for emergencies and
not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines train at least senior
FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second pair of eyes/hands?


Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.

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Old January 30th 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines
train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second
pair of eyes/hands?


Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.


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Old January 30th 07, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

As opposed to getting a random passenger.


Exactly.

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Old January 31st 07, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines
train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second
pair of eyes/hands?


Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.



Not a random passenger, a certificated pilot. I would certainly
consider a certificated pilot--ANY certificated pilot--more qualified to
be on the flight deck in such a situation than a flight attendant who
did not hold a pilot certificate.



JKG
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Old January 31st 07, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the
airlines train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops
and a second pair of eyes/hands?

Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.



Not a random passenger, a certificated pilot. I would certainly
consider a certificated pilot--ANY certificated pilot--more qualified
to be on the flight deck in such a situation than a flight attendant
who did not hold a pilot certificate.


An FA could easily be tought enough to help tune the radios and be an extra
set of eyes. It could be done 100% in the simulator.


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Old January 31st 07, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

An FA could easily be tought enough to help tune the radios and be an extra
set of eyes. It could be done 100% in the simulator.



Similar to "pinch hitter" courses.
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Old January 31st 07, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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B A R R Y wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

An FA could easily be tought enough to help tune the radios and be
an extra set of eyes. It could be done 100% in the simulator.



Similar to "pinch hitter" courses.


Exactly.


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Old February 1st 07, 02:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 30, 7:51 pm, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines
train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second
pair of eyes/hands?


My airline tried to do something like this back in the late 90s, by
allowing the A line to ride the jumpseat during take off and landing,
but 9/11 changed that program in a hurry.



As opposed to getting a random passenger.


Not a random passenger, a certificated pilot. I would certainly
consider a certificated pilot--ANY certificated pilot--more qualified to
be on the flight deck in such a situation than a flight attendant who
did not hold a pilot certificate.


One thing to consider here is that flight attendants see what goes on
day in and day out for years.Many of them know ALOT about flying from
watching us do checklists,inflight visits to the cockpit, and on
ocasion getting to fly on deadhead or ferry flights.
I would say that most GA pilots would probably be overwelmed on thier
first time in the seat and might not be as helpfull as a person who
has seen this stuff day in and day out for years.

JKG

KM

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Old January 31st 07, 09:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for emergencies and
not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines train at least senior
FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second pair of eyes/hands?


Or why there is a mandatory retirement age for pilots yet none for FA's.
The previous #1 by seniority (no pun intended) at UA was 80+ years
old. Her name was Gladys IIRC. If someone mentioned her name, most of
the real frequent fliers (1K's on up) would recognize the name and knew
who you were talking about. She was forced to retire last year IIRC
when she couldn't open up the cabin door. No joke. Can you imagine
this woman jumping down a chute in a wheel chair. ?

The FAA should set a mandatory retirement age for FA's. And if it were
up to me, I'd make that age 32. ;-)

Gerald
 




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