Emergency landing today Troutdale, OR

gatt wrote:
http://koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=6018883

Bummer, but he's alive. He'd just purchased the plane this morning,
coming to Troutdale (probably for fuel) and had to make an emergency
landing in a suburb about a mile or so from the runway. To the west
is Blue Lake (shallow) and to the east toward the airport is a bunch
of fields but the terrain is broken and being developed. A local
pilot would probably know where to put it down off the street, but
this guy did alright.
This is about a mile from my house. I can tell if it's a good flying
day by the amount of planes flying overhead. Rwy 07 faces straight
into mouth of the Columbia River Gorge so he might have found himself
facing a sudden 20mph gusting headwind turning final.

gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not saying
the engine stalled.

On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not saying
the engine stalled.

But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.

--
Peter

Peter R. wrote:
On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not
saying the engine stalled.

But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.

Peter, you know we have no choice but hunt you down and kill you now, right?

The engine may have quit, but there are a lot of reasons for this,
especially things like running out of gas, or not generally knowing the fuel
systems. It wouldn't necessarily need to have been a problem intrinsically
with the engine itself.

Since the plane was seemingly intact, the NTSB investigation should provide
some meaningful information.



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The engine may have quit, but there are a lot of reasons for this,
especially things like running out of gas, or not generally knowing the
fuel systems. It wouldn't necessarily need to have been a problem
intrinsically with the engine itself.

Since the plane was seemingly intact, the NTSB investigation should
provide some meaningful information.

It is very rare for two experimental, even of like makes/models, to have
identical systems, so the NTSB doesn't go to great lengths to investigate
experimental/homebuilt accidents unless there was a fatality. It isn't like
there are a thousand identical aircraft out there with the same undiscovered
problem lurking around just waiting to bite the owner.

The new owner of this aircraft is a fellow named Rick Gray. Presumably he
understands the systems on these aircraft, since he built an Oshkosh award
winning RV-6 some years back.

KB

Peter R. wrote:
On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:


gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not saying
the engine stalled.


But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.

It didn't stall, it quit. Airplane engines don't stall, airplane wings
stall, airplane engines quit. It's an english thing.

Margy

On 2/4/2007 9:38:52 PM, Margy Natalie wrote:

It didn't stall, it quit. Airplane engines don't stall, airplane wings
stall, airplane engines quit. It's an english thing.

I was joking. Even those smiley faces aren't enough anymore, it seems.

--
Peter

Margy Natalie wrote:
Peter R. wrote:

On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not
saying
the engine stalled.



But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.

It didn't stall, it quit. Airplane engines don't stall, airplane wings
stall, airplane engines quit. It's an english thing.

Airplane engines stall also. Stall is a perfectly good word to use when
an airplane engine stops turning. They don't always stop, but if they
do, they have stalled. I suspect engines were stalling before airplane
wings were stalling. :-)

Matt

Margy Natalie wrote:
Peter R. wrote:
On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:
gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not
saying the engine stalled.

But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.

It didn't stall, it quit. Airplane engines don't stall, airplane
wings stall, airplane engines quit. It's an english thing.

Alas for aviation, the word "stall" probably had as one of its many
meanings that of engine stoppage long before airplanes came on the scene.
So it is perhaps either inappropriate or futile to ask people to drop
that meaning from the word. Context would normally disambiguate things;
e.g. "the airplane engine stalled" or "the wing stalled" are pretty
unambiguous, but "the airplane stalled" is ambiguous as to meaning
without further context. There are an awful lot of meanings to the word
"stall" and entering "define:stall" into Google (or looking into a decent
print dictionary) yields:

Stall:

* procrastinate: postpone doing what one should be doing; "He did not
want to write the letter and procrastinated for days"
* a compartment in a stable where a single animal is confined and fed
* come to a stop; "The car stalled in the driveway"
* booth: small area set off by walls for special use
* a booth where articles are displayed for sale
* deliberately delay an event or action; "she doesn't want to write the
report, so she is stalling"
* put into, or keep in, a stall; "Stall the horse"
* a malfunction in the flight of an aircraft in which there is a sudden
loss of lift that results in a downward plunge; "the plane went into a
stall and I couldn't control it"
* experience a stall in flight, of airplanes
* seating in the forward part of the main level of a theater
* carrel: small individual study area in a library
* cause an airplane to go into a stall
* cause an engine to stop; "The inexperienced driver kept stalling the
car"
* a tactic used to mislead or delay

Jim Logajan wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote:

Peter R. wrote:

On 2/1/2007 9:12:05 AM, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrote:

gatt, call your local news station and give them an atta'boy for not
saying the engine stalled.

But in this case it appears that the engine did just that.


It didn't stall, it quit. Airplane engines don't stall, airplane
wings stall, airplane engines quit. It's an english thing.


Alas for aviation, the word "stall" probably had as one of its many
meanings that of engine stoppage long before airplanes came on the scene.
So it is perhaps either inappropriate or futile to ask people to drop
that meaning from the word. Context would normally disambiguate things;
e.g. "the airplane engine stalled" or "the wing stalled" are pretty
unambiguous, but "the airplane stalled" is ambiguous as to meaning
without further context. There are an awful lot of meanings to the word
"stall" and entering "define:stall" into Google (or looking into a decent
print dictionary) yields:

Stall:

* procrastinate: postpone doing what one should be doing; "He did not
want to write the letter and procrastinated for days"
* a compartment in a stable where a single animal is confined and fed
* come to a stop; "The car stalled in the driveway"
* booth: small area set off by walls for special use
* a booth where articles are displayed for sale
* deliberately delay an event or action; "she doesn't want to write the
report, so she is stalling"
* put into, or keep in, a stall; "Stall the horse"
* a malfunction in the flight of an aircraft in which there is a sudden
loss of lift that results in a downward plunge; "the plane went into a
stall and I couldn't control it"
* experience a stall in flight, of airplanes
* seating in the forward part of the main level of a theater
* carrel: small individual study area in a library
* cause an airplane to go into a stall
* cause an engine to stop; "The inexperienced driver kept stalling the
car"
* a tactic used to mislead or delay
Dam** forgot my smiley face. I used that expression to get 10 year olds
to learn the difference between aerodynamic stalls and engine problems.
In aviation we do say the engine quit rather than stall to avoid
confusion.

Margy