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Old February 5th 07, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Feb 5, 5:33 pm, Jim wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:08:30 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
An aircraft on final has the right-of-way.


Yes. This is particularly wonderful when a pilot announces a
five-mile straight-in final to an uncontrolled field.


Exactly. They need to announce down to about every mile to the field
on a straight-in. I've had someone announce they were twenty miles
out on a straight-in, so I turned base. Lo and behold they were
actually one mile out... and cut me off.

Regards, Kev

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Old February 6th 07, 01:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...

Exactly. They need to announce down to about every mile to the field
on a straight-in. I've had someone announce they were twenty miles
out on a straight-in, so I turned base. Lo and behold they were
actually one mile out... and cut me off.


Sounds like you were cutting him off. Did you scan for traffic?


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Old February 6th 07, 03:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Feb 5, 8:12 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
"Kev" wrote in message
Exactly. They need to announce down to about every mile to the field
on a straight-in. I've had someone announce they were twenty miles
out on a straight-in, so I turned base. Lo and behold they were
actually one mile out... and cut me off.


Sounds like you were cutting him off. Did you scan for traffic?


Obviously I scanned for traffic, which is why I'm still here ;-)

He claimed to be twenty miles out, or about 10 minutes away at
Cherokee speeds. Plenty of time for me to land first. However, he
was much, much closer. Apparently he was overloaded doing the
practice approach.

In the pattern, it's easier to see where someone is. Straight in, you
often just have to believe what they say. (That is, trust but
verify ;-)

Kev

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Old February 8th 07, 10:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Kev" wrote in message
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Obviously I scanned for traffic, which is why I'm still here ;-)


I don't understand. Are you saying you scanned for traffic, spotted traffic
one mile out on final, and then turned base?



He claimed to be twenty miles out, or about 10 minutes away at
Cherokee speeds. Plenty of time for me to land first. However, he
was much, much closer. Apparently he was overloaded doing the
practice approach.


Are you sure it was the same aircraft?



In the pattern, it's easier to see where someone is. Straight in, you
often just have to believe what they say. (That is, trust but
verify ;-)


I've heard others say that, but I've never found find it difficult to spot
traffic on final.


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Old February 9th 07, 03:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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Default Straight-ins at uncontrolled airports?

On Feb 8, 5:11 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
I don't understand. Are you saying you scanned for traffic, spotted traffic
one mile out on final, and then turned base?


Nope. As I said, he called straight-in final, claiming to be twenty
miles out... or about ten minutes away. Plenty of time for us to
land (I was with a CFI at the time). Less than a minute later we
turned base, but luckily spotted him coming straight in over a hill,
and only a half mile from landing... so we went around. And yes, it
was the same aircraft.

In the pattern, it's easier to see where someone is. Straight in, you
often just have to believe what they say. (That is, trust but
verify ;-)


I've heard others say that, but I've never found find it difficult to spot
traffic on final.


It's hilly enough around here that it can be difficult to spot an
aircraft on straight-in final.

Cheers, Kev

 




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