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Old January 1st 07, 06:13 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Luke
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"Papa Fox" wrote in message
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With some of the nasty tricks a Camel rotary can pull on a person,
authenticy can have its price. I'm not sure I'd want to do that even
if it's no longer the real thing. P.



Authenticity does have it's price. I'm building a reproduction Curtis
JN-4D and people look at me like I got things growing out of the side of my
head when I tell them it will have an original OX-5 engine. They don't
realize that I am an engineer and I will be modifying the engine to make it
more reliable.


Luke


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Old January 1st 07, 07:50 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Even at its worst, the OX-5 wouldn't have the gyroscopic tricks in it
the Camel rotary exhibited - even more so than other rotaries with the
possible exception of the DR-I (IMHO). P.

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:13:29 -0700, "Luke" wrote:


"Papa Fox" wrote in message
.. .
With some of the nasty tricks a Camel rotary can pull on a person,
authenticy can have its price. I'm not sure I'd want to do that even
if it's no longer the real thing. P.



Authenticity does have it's price. I'm building a reproduction Curtis
JN-4D and people look at me like I got things growing out of the side of my
head when I tell them it will have an original OX-5 engine. They don't
realize that I am an engineer and I will be modifying the engine to make it
more reliable.


Luke

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Old January 1st 07, 07:50 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Papa Fox
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Even at its worst, the OX-5 wouldn't have the gyroscopic tricks in it
the Camel rotary exhibited - even more so than other rotaries with the
possible exception of the DR-I (IMHO). P.

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:13:29 -0700, "Luke" wrote:


"Papa Fox" wrote in message
.. .
With some of the nasty tricks a Camel rotary can pull on a person,
authenticy can have its price. I'm not sure I'd want to do that even
if it's no longer the real thing. P.



Authenticity does have it's price. I'm building a reproduction Curtis
JN-4D and people look at me like I got things growing out of the side of my
head when I tell them it will have an original OX-5 engine. They don't
realize that I am an engineer and I will be modifying the engine to make it
more reliable.


Luke

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Old January 2nd 07, 02:27 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Avsec
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"Glenn Alderton" wrote in message
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A friend looked up the history of this Camel and past on these deatils:

As promised, an outline history of Camel B3889.

It was delivered to the RFC on 23 July 1917 and was with No 70 Sqn in
France, where it was coded 'B-1' by 12 August. Capt C F Collett claimed the
follwing victrories:


A black Albatros D.V North of Thourout at 2005 on 13 August;

An Albatros D.V at Kreulseeck at 1940 on 18 August;

An Albatros D.V out of control over Gheluvelt at 0850 on 22 August;

A hostile aircraft out of control over Gheluwe at 1925 on 25 August (shared
with Lt J G Grant-Smith).


It crashed on a practice flight on 31 August after combat damage - Capt
Collett was unhurt.


After repair, it was returned to No 70 Sqn on 16 September.


2Lt C N L Lomax was credited with an Albatros out of control over
Westroosbeke on 24 September (shared with Lt W H R Gould).


It ran into a ridge on landing on 13 October (Capt F H Lawrence unhurt) and
was damaged. After repair it was allocated to No 3 Sqn on 8 November, but
was assessed as not worth repairing and struck off on 11 December.

Avsec


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Old January 2nd 07, 02:27 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Avsec
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"Glenn Alderton" wrote in message
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A friend looked up the history of this Camel and past on these deatils:

As promised, an outline history of Camel B3889.

It was delivered to the RFC on 23 July 1917 and was with No 70 Sqn in
France, where it was coded 'B-1' by 12 August. Capt C F Collett claimed the
follwing victrories:


A black Albatros D.V North of Thourout at 2005 on 13 August;

An Albatros D.V at Kreulseeck at 1940 on 18 August;

An Albatros D.V out of control over Gheluvelt at 0850 on 22 August;

A hostile aircraft out of control over Gheluwe at 1925 on 25 August (shared
with Lt J G Grant-Smith).


It crashed on a practice flight on 31 August after combat damage - Capt
Collett was unhurt.


After repair, it was returned to No 70 Sqn on 16 September.


2Lt C N L Lomax was credited with an Albatros out of control over
Westroosbeke on 24 September (shared with Lt W H R Gould).


It ran into a ridge on landing on 13 October (Capt F H Lawrence unhurt) and
was damaged. After repair it was allocated to No 3 Sqn on 8 November, but
was assessed as not worth repairing and struck off on 11 December.

Avsec


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Old January 2nd 07, 06:22 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Luke
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"Papa Fox" wrote in message
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Even at its worst, the OX-5 wouldn't have the gyroscopic tricks in it
the Camel rotary exhibited - even more so than other rotaries with the
possible exception of the DR-I (IMHO). P.



Very true. Dealing with modifications to a cranky ingnition system and
an unreliable valve train are inconseqential compared to the basic dynamic
problems associated with rotary engines. When Jenny is done, it should be a
realtive pussycat to fly.


Luke


  #17  
Old January 2nd 07, 06:22 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Luke
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Default Sopwith Camel


"Papa Fox" wrote in message
...
Even at its worst, the OX-5 wouldn't have the gyroscopic tricks in it
the Camel rotary exhibited - even more so than other rotaries with the
possible exception of the DR-I (IMHO). P.



Very true. Dealing with modifications to a cranky ingnition system and
an unreliable valve train are inconseqential compared to the basic dynamic
problems associated with rotary engines. When Jenny is done, it should be a
realtive pussycat to fly.


Luke


 




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