An Open Apology to R.A.P.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

MX isn't a bad sort, and he *is* trying to discuss aviation.

I also disagree.

I found a way to eliminate him along with any threads he pollutes from my
newsreader. Every so often I change from 'hide ignored messages' to 'show
all messages', just to see if anyone is actually posting.

There's not much troll-free traffic here anymore. It's too bad.

The interesting part is that you are the sole example that I can think of
who could be hurt financially from the death of this group. You've managed
to promote your business along with contributing to this group. I have no
idea how much business is generated through usenet (I suspect not much), but
I doubt you'll get any in 2008 if things continue as they have.

When you post your Pre-Oshkosh schedule, please do so in a new thread, so my
filter won't ignore it. If you post in a thread he's touched, I'll never see
it.

On 2/13/2007 3:44:38 PM, "Steve Foley" wrote:

If you post in a thread he's touched, I'll never see
it.

You need a newsreader that only deletes branches of threads, not the entire
thread, where the poster in question originates the branch.

Otherwise you are missing some good threads started by a legitimate poster.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
...
On 2/13/2007 3:44:38 PM, "Steve Foley" wrote:

If you post in a thread he's touched, I'll never see
it.

You need a newsreader that only deletes branches of threads, not the
entire
thread, where the poster in question originates the branch.

Otherwise you are missing some good threads started by a legitimate
poster.


I actually have Outlook Express doing that. His posts, responses to him, and
responses to those, are all ignored. It only ignores threads from his
posting and below.

Unfortunately, that leaves little to read, so little reason to check in.

On 2/13/2007 4:31:00 PM, "Steve Foley" wrote:

I actually have Outlook Express doing that. His posts, responses to him, and
responses to those, are all ignored. It only ignores threads from his
posting and below.

Unfortunately, that leaves little to read, so little reason to check in.

Ah, OK. I have a similar filter but I find it does leave enough content to
check in once a day. I am seeing, though, that there are many long-time
regulars no longer here, though. Their input is sorely missed by this pilot.

--
Peter

Steve Foley wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

MX isn't a bad sort, and he *is* trying to discuss aviation.

When you post your Pre-Oshkosh schedule, please do so in a new thread, so my
filter won't ignore it. If you post in a thread he's touched, I'll never see
it.


I'm never going to see it even if MX hasn't touched it. I've had enough of his
defending this loser. Obviously, he's lacking the ability to think critically.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote

I'm never going to see it even if MX hasn't touched it. I've had enough
of his
defending this loser. Obviously, he's lacking the ability to think
critically.

I don't think it's so much that as that there is no common point of
reference or understanding when it comes to Mx. Ask him for definitions of
things like what constitutes GA for example, and you will find that his
definition is completely different from anyone who actually flies.
Therefore, if you go into it assuming that he knows what he is actually
talking about, or you think you understand what he is asking, then you set
yourself up for miscommunication and the
endless-descending-spiral-into-oblivion-circular-logic discussion which is
so typical of the discussions that involve the guy.

I don't understand why so many people get so worked up about it - I just
consider the source, and I don't read what I'm not interested in. If some
people here want to spend the time trying to understand the guy and perhaps
help him, fine - why not?

As far as worrying about potential pilots getting bad information from him
is concerned, anyone who has spent more than 10 minutes on the internet
knows how much weight to put on the information that you find there.

BDS

On Feb 14, 8:42 am, "BDS" wrote:
As far as worrying about potential pilots getting bad information from him
is concerned, anyone who has spent more than 10 minutes on the internet
knows how much weight to put on the information that you find there.

Indeed, you quickly figure out who's worth listening to, or not.

It's a bit insulting when a few people think that they have to "warn"
everyone else. Inflated egos at work ! As if they're the only
readers smart enough !

Quite often it also turns out that one of his responders is dead
wrong. They should be thankful that they're not treated in kind,
even though they deserve it.

The majority don't defend Mx, the person. We just abhor the wasteful
methods used against him. Do the people posting insults or goodbyes,
think that makes them look more manly or something? Because it sure
does the opposite.

Kev

The interesting part is that you are the sole example that I can think of
who could be hurt financially from the death of this group. You've managed
to promote your business along with contributing to this group. I have no
idea how much business is generated through usenet (I suspect not much), but
I doubt you'll get any in 2008 if things continue as they have.

In case you haven't noticed, Steve, I'm not the sort that cares about
stuff like that. I post what I want to post here, usually with my
tongue firmly in cheek (and a thick skin), and I don't worry too much
about the fallout. Shoot, if we relied on Usenet for business, we
wouldn't have lasted 5 weeks, let alone 5 years!

Although I respect the views that are expressed here, and often seek
feedback for changes we're contemplating at the hotel, I'm afraid
losing rec.aviation would do grave harm my psyche, not my checkbook.

But I don't think we have to worry about that happening any time
soon. I've seen this group rocked by some pretty aggravating people,
over the years. Usenet is pretty sturdy!

When you post your Pre-Oshkosh schedule, please do so in a new thread, so my
filter won't ignore it. If you post in a thread he's touched, I'll never see
it.

Already did! The Pre-Oshkosh Pool Party is July 21st. We then all
fly into OSH on July 22nd. It'll be one for the books, I tell ya, and
hopefully we won't have to hold around Rush Lake for two hours
again...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

With you on this one Jay!

Dave


On 12 Feb 2007 18:26:21 -0800, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I hope groups like GNAA and other troll organizations never catch wind
of this place. Trolling you people is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Mxsmaniac isn't even explicitly trolling, for christ sake. He's just
trying to discuss.

Bull****.

You know, you guys really need to lighten up. Remember when Skylune
was flying off in every direction, hot and heavy? People were beside
themselves trying to shut him down, and keep him quiet.

I took another tack, and engaged with him. We talked politics, he
opened up and started talking about his days when he took flight
lessons. He turned out to be an okay guy, just ****ed off at some
doofus who kept over-flying his house. He's now a regular here, and
often contributes valuable input to this group.

MX isn't a bad sort, and he *is* trying to discuss aviation. He's
coming 'round to see that -- when posting on a pilot's group -- he has
to explicitly state that he's talking about sim experience. And he
has iniated some very interesting threads -- which is more than I can
say about a lot of the folks who are trash-talking him.

Diplomacy is the art of the possible. I suggest we all try it.