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Old February 12th 07, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:



Not extraordinarily wealthy, but much more wealthy than average, especially if
they fly more than a few hours per year.


Why should people who are much more wealthy than average expect their
elisted hobby to be funded by the taxes of the struggling masses?
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Old February 12th 07, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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Sam Spade wrote:

Why should people who are much more wealthy than average expect their
elisted hobby to be funded by the taxes of the struggling masses?


The "hobby" flying that people, including the wealthy, do adds so little to
the cost of maintaining the national airspace system that it is hardly worth
mentioning. The things that get money spent on them like airports are
helping the struggling masses by supporting businesses that create jobs.


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Old February 12th 07, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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The "hobby" flying that people, including the wealthy, do adds so little to
the cost of maintaining the national airspace system that it is hardly worth
mentioning. The things that get money spent on them like airports are
helping the struggling masses by supporting businesses that create jobs.


I strongly suspect that GA is more of a burden than an asset for the
population and society at large. Commercial air travel is a necessity;
general aviation is not.

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Old February 12th 07, 06:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:

I strongly suspect that GA is more of a burden than an asset for the
population and society at large. Commercial air travel is a necessity;
general aviation is not.

Well, if you are going to make a statement like that then you can
also say that commercial air travel isn't really "necessary".

The only "necessary" things in life are food air and water and a
dry place to sleep. If you want more than that, and/or things
at a lower cost then lots of other things are necessary... including
general aviation.

Of course we are really only talking about free societies that
encourage business and priviate property rights. Anything else is
the old Soviet Union, in one form or another.
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Old February 12th 07, 07:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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ktbr writes:

Well, if you are going to make a statement like that then you can
also say that commercial air travel isn't really "necessary".


Not really. Commercial air travel is a necessary part of the country's
infrastructure. General aviation is not. If GA disappeared tomorrow,
virtually nothing would perceptibly change in the U.S. If commercial air
travel disappeared, the country would nearly grind to a halt.

Of course we are really only talking about free societies that
encourage business and priviate property rights. Anything else is
the old Soviet Union, in one form or another.


People who are not interested in GA don't see it that way. To them, GA is a
hobby for the rich, and they are justifiably curious as to why they should
subsidize GA in any way, since they receive nothing in return.

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Old February 12th 07, 07:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

People who are not interested in GA don't see it that way. To them, GA is

a
hobby for the rich, and they are justifiably curious as to why they should
subsidize GA in any way, since they receive nothing in return.


What is your definition of GA?

BDS




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Old February 12th 07, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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BDS writes:

What is your definition of GA?


Anything that's not a commercial transportation service for pay.

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Old February 12th 07, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:

People who are not interested in GA don't see it that way. To them, GA is a
hobby for the rich, and they are justifiably curious as to why they should
subsidize GA in any way, since they receive nothing in return.


They are ignorant. Every day in this country GA is used by businesses
large to small. We have two UPS contract flights in and out of our GA
airport daily and two check hauling flights daily. Business jets come in
and out of here several times a week on business purposes with any of
dozens of business located in this town or nearby. All this is GA, not
Commercial.

Most people have no clue that much of the products that get shipped to
their homes come via GA.
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Old February 12th 07, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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ktbr wrote:

They are ignorant. Every day in this country GA is used by businesses
large to small. We have two UPS contract flights in and out of our GA
airport daily and two check hauling flights daily. Business jets come in
and out of here several times a week on business purposes with any of
dozens of business located in this town or nearby. All this is GA, not
Commercial.


Not quite. Most of it _is_ commercial, but it's not scheduled airline
service, so it's GA. LOTS of GA is commercial in nature. G


Most people have no clue that much of the products that get shipped to
their homes come via GA.


I agree, if you mean products that actually traveled by air.
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Old February 12th 07, 08:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.student
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ktbr writes:

They are ignorant. Every day in this country GA is used by businesses
large to small.


Forget it.

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