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On Feb 12, 11:01 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
If GA disappeared tomorrow, virtually nothing would perceptibly change in the U.S. If commercial air travel disappeared, the country would nearly grind to a halt. If GA disappeared tomorrow, commercial air travel would eventually suffer as well. Remember that many of those airline pilots flying around those big planes learned how to fly in little GA aircraft. -- Bryan |
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Bryan writes:
If GA disappeared tomorrow, commercial air travel would eventually suffer as well. Remember that many of those airline pilots flying around those big planes learned how to fly in little GA aircraft. But that is no longer necessary. Pilots can be trained from zero in simulators and then turned loose on the actual aircraft for a quick checkride, or perhaps for a revenue flight. This is what the Third World is considering in order to train enough pilots quickly enough to meet demand. The FAA is more conservative and probably won't allow this for some time to come, although everyone is moving in that direction. GA aircraft are so far from airliners now that training in them is of dubious value, and airliners themselves are too expensive and risky to fly for training. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Bryan wrote:
On Feb 12, 11:01 am, Mxsmanic wrote: If GA disappeared tomorrow, virtually nothing would perceptibly change in the U.S. If commercial air travel disappeared, the country would nearly grind to a halt. If GA disappeared tomorrow, commercial air travel would eventually suffer as well. Remember that many of those airline pilots flying around those big planes learned how to fly in little GA aircraft. -- Bryan GA will not disappear. The folks who buy new $500,000 piston singles will not disappear. The airlines will eventually, perhaps, use these advanced piston birds to train their pilots from scratch, if necessary. No one is proposing to abolish light aircraft from most of the airspace. |
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![]() Sam Spade wrote: The airlines will eventually, perhaps, use these advanced piston birds to train their pilots from scratch, if necessary. They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets. |
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![]() "Newps" wrote They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets. The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing threatens to break a system that is essentially not broken. All to better serve the big money at the airlines. It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out of the post 9-11 period. One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think for themselves, and not allow the package to go through. -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
"Newps" wrote They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets. The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing threatens to break a system that is essentially not broken. All to better serve the big money at the airlines. It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out of the post 9-11 period. One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think for themselves, and not allow the package to go through. The way the Democrats in Congress who now control this stuff are talking, user fees may die. The airline stooge group, the Air Transport Association, is now focusing on big increases in fuel taxes. |
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![]() The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing threatens to break a system that is essentially not broken. All to better serve the big money at the airlines. It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out of the post 9-11 period. You are not alone. :-( One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think for themselves, and not allow the package to go through. -- We can only hope. |
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Newps wrote:
Sam Spade wrote: The airlines will eventually, perhaps, use these advanced piston birds to train their pilots from scratch, if necessary. They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets. As has JAL in Napa, California. I was thinking in terms of U.S. carriers. |
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