If user fees go into effect I'm done

Sam Spade wrote:


The airlines will eventually, perhaps, use these advanced piston birds
to train their pilots from scratch, if necessary.

They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in
Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK
in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero
time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first
officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China
Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started
their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into
Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets.

"Newps" wrote

They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in
Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK
in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero
time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first
officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China
Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started
their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into
Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets.

The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing threatens
to break a system that is essentially not broken.

All to better serve the big money at the airlines.

It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out of
the post 9-11 period.

One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential
election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think for
themselves, and not allow the package to go through.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:


"Newps" wrote

They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in
Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at
GFK in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over
zero time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as
first officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air,
China Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They
started their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved
into Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets.


The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing
threatens to break a system that is essentially not broken.

All to better serve the big money at the airlines.

It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out
of the post 9-11 period.

One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential
election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think
for themselves, and not allow the package to go through.

The way the Democrats in Congress who now control this stuff are
talking, user fees may die. The airline stooge group, the Air Transport
Association, is now focusing on big increases in fuel taxes.

The biggest shame about the whole thing, is that this whole thing
threatens
to break a system that is essentially not broken.

All to better serve the big money at the airlines.

It makes me sick to think that I, at the time, supported their bail-out of
the post 9-11 period.

You are not alone. :-(

One can hope that this blows over until after the next presidential
election. It would be nice to think that our representatives can think
for
themselves, and not allow the package to go through.
--
We can only hope.

Newps wrote:


Sam Spade wrote:


The airlines will eventually, perhaps, use these advanced piston birds
to train their pilots from scratch, if necessary.


They've been doing that for a long time. Lufthansa uses Bonanza's in
Arizona, some of them have over 14,000 hours on them. When I was at GFK
in the early 90's UND had a program where airlines would send over zero
time students and they would leave UND in less thyan a year as first
officers on Airbuses and 747's. We had students from Gulf Air, China
Airlines and a third one that I can't recall right now. They started
their private pilot training in Piper Arrows and then moved into
Seminoles, King Airs and then finally Citations and Beechjets.


As has JAL in Napa, California. I was thinking in terms of U.S. carriers.