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Old February 13th 07, 12:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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The US has never had an 'official' language and it does not need one now. I
don't need some government regulator telling me what language to speak.


You (and others like you) are dooming us to Balkanization.

Without a common language, no country can long survive.

But that's beside the original point. Who in the HELL authorized the
creation of a foreign language webpage by our supposedly cash-strapped
National Weather Service?

Apparently they have money to burn, and we shouldn't be concerned with
their budget in the future.
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Old February 13th 07, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:43:49 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote
(in article .com):

The US has never had an 'official' language and it does not need one now. I
don't need some government regulator telling me what language to speak.


You (and others like you) are dooming us to Balkanization.

Without a common language, no country can long survive.


Nonsense. Plenty of countries without a common language have been around for
a lot longer than we have. Even the US has never had a common language and
for part of its history English was a minority language.

You keep insisting that Spanish is a foreign language. In what way is it a
foreign language that English is not?


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Old February 13th 07, 06:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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C J Campbell writes:

Plenty of countries without a common language have been around for
a lot longer than we have.


And just about everyone of them has suffered with interminable internal
conflicts as a result.

Even the US has never had a common language and
for part of its history English was a minority language.


Which part?

You keep insisting that Spanish is a foreign language. In what way is it a
foreign language that English is not?


It's not the predominant language in the U.S., so it's a foreign language
there.

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Old February 14th 07, 04:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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"mx" == mxsmanic writes:

mx C J Campbell writes:
Plenty of countries without a common language have been around
for a lot longer than we have.


mx And just about everyone of them has suffered with interminable
mx internal conflicts as a result.

Of course, having English as a common language prevented our Civil
War. War Between the States. Whatever.
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Old February 14th 07, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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mx And just about everyone of them has suffered with interminable
mx internal conflicts as a result.

Of course, having English as a common language prevented our Civil
War. War Between the States. Whatever.


That's hilarious!
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Old February 13th 07, 01:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Flydive
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Jay Honeck wrote:
cut
Without a common language, no country can long survive.

Cut
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Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Well Switzerland did quite well for more than 700 years(4 official
languages), as did other multilingual countries around the world.
How old is USA?
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Old February 13th 07, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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Spanish is not a foreign language. The Spanish were the first
Europeans to arrive in the New World. They colonized most of the
americas long before the English and other N. Europeans arrived here,
and made ventures into the Midwest. Of course they established the
California missions and other outposts while the N. European colonists
were stuck on the east coast.

Whenever I see some story about Lewis and Clark I snicker. Cortes and
other Spanish and Portugese pioneers make them and the English
seem like cub scouts.

The history of mankind is basically the history of groups stealing
from each other. The stealers make a noble explanation for their
acts, the stealees whine.

WTF does this have to do with piloting anyway.
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Old February 13th 07, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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WTF does this have to do with piloting anyway.

Nothing. Again, you have wandered off into a bitter rant.

This thread is about foreign language weather websites being paid for
with US taxpayer dollars. This all-too-typical government
wastefulness is especially disturbing in an era when we're being
threatened with "user's fees" due to "budget shortfalls".

You can rant all you want about Spanish not being a foreign language
in America, but you will be both irrelevant and wrong.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 14th 07, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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This thread is about foreign language weather websites being paid for
with US taxpayer dollars. [...]

You can rant all you want about Spanish not being a foreign language
in America, but you will be both irrelevant and wrong.


Uhhh... no. The website was in =Spanish=, so it is relevant whether it
is a foreign language or not. And the word "foreign" doesn't mean
"foreign to Jay". Spanish is not foreign to the United States.

So, such a rant would be is relevant, and right. Not irrelevant and wrong.

Besides, do you know how much it costs to translate the website into
Spanish? I resent the government translating the website into babytalk.
=That's= where the problem lies.

Jose
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Old February 14th 07, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Uhhh... no. The website was in =Spanish=, so it is relevant whether it
is a foreign language or not. And the word "foreign" doesn't mean
"foreign to Jay". Spanish is not foreign to the United States.

So, such a rant would be is relevant, and right. Not irrelevant and wrong.


Um, sorry to burst your bubble, Jose, but Spanish is a foreign
language in the United States. Just because an ever-growing segment
of the population speaks it does not make it anything but foreign.

My German ancestors onces dominated the upper midwest, especially
Wisconsin. In Milwaukee, it was completely normal to hear only German
spoken, everywhere. (In fact, I have nieces and nephews currently
attending German-language-only school in Milwaukee.)

That never changed the fact that German was (and still is) a foreign
language in America, and my ancestors learned the native tongue --
English -- as rapidly as possible.

And the US government certainly didn't squander tax money translating
everything into German for them.

Besides, do you know how much it costs to translate the website into
Spanish? I resent the government translating the website into babytalk.
=That's= where the problem lies.


I don't care how much it costs -- *ANY* amount is absurd. If the NWS
has so much extra money laying around that they can afford such silly
expenditures, I'd say we should get the extra money the FAA craves
from their budget.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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