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Mxsmanic wrote:

Sylvain writes:


is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is
your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something
with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of
its parts. That's what I sign up for.


Most immigrants are looking for a better life, so they don't have much to
bring, and there isn't much that they want to bring.

You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new.

You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new.

Now there I disagree.

My German heritage meshes nicely with Mary's Hungarian background. We
enjoy great beer, wine, potatoes, and goulash, as well as oompah bands
and polkas!

In my opinion, the ONLY parts of our heritage that have survived five
generations in the United States have been the best ones. All the
horrible European problems that our ancestors fought so hard to escape
have been left behind, while the good parts -- the food, the song, the
festivals -- remain.

In the end, we are both very proud of our heritage, but we are first
and foremost AMERICANS. Our great-grandparents didn't risk their
lives coming here so that we could screw that up.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

LWG writes:

Like me, most Americans have close ties to immigrants, whether is is this
generation, or one recently past. But in my family, I never heard the
outright hatred for American culture and values that I hear from some of
today's immigrants. Laws compelling bilingualism will increase the divide
between the groups, and increase the hostility.

Unfortunately, that is exactly what some people want, and those are the people
behind bilingual initiatives. It is not intended to work in the best interest
of the immigrants at all.

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:01:08 -0800, LWG wrote
(in article ):

I think what Jay says makes a lot of sense.

The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly abandoned
many or most aspects of the culture it left.

Well, there were a lot of reasons for that. Many Americans left Europe to get
away from all the feuding. The Scots may all have spoken Gaelic, but they
didn't get along with each other. :-)

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:01:08 -0800, LWG wrote
(in article ):

I think what Jay says makes a lot of sense.

The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly abandoned
many or most aspects of the culture it left.

However, the wisecrack aside, I think what you are missing is that a lot of
these Spanish speakers are not immigrants. They were born here. They have
lived here for hundreds of years, speaking nothing but Spanish. They were
here before the Mayflower. We have a whole territory of nothing but Spanish
speaking people. We have at least a few states where Spanish speaking people
are, if not the majority, at least a very large part of the population.

But, if you just want to expel Puerto Rico, New Mexico, Southern California,
and parts of Arizona and Texas and give it all back to Mexico just so you can
call those people immigrants, well then you might have a point.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:01:08 -0800, LWG wrote
(in article ):


I think what Jay says makes a lot of sense.

The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly abandoned
many or most aspects of the culture it left.


However, the wisecrack aside, I think what you are missing is that a lot of
these Spanish speakers are not immigrants. They were born here. They have
lived here for hundreds of years, speaking nothing but Spanish. They were
here before the Mayflower. We have a whole territory of nothing but Spanish
speaking people. We have at least a few states where Spanish speaking people
are, if not the majority, at least a very large part of the population.

But, if you just want to expel Puerto Rico, New Mexico, Southern California,
and parts of Arizona and Texas and give it all back to Mexico just so you can
call those people immigrants, well then you might have a point.


Well, that is a very compelling proposition! :-)

Matt

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:16:37 -0800, Matt Whiting wrote
(in article ):

C J Campbell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:01:08 -0800, LWG wrote
(in article ):


I think what Jay says makes a lot of sense.

The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly
abandoned
many or most aspects of the culture it left.


However, the wisecrack aside, I think what you are missing is that a lot of
these Spanish speakers are not immigrants. They were born here. They have
lived here for hundreds of years, speaking nothing but Spanish. They were
here before the Mayflower. We have a whole territory of nothing but Spanish
speaking people. We have at least a few states where Spanish speaking
people
are, if not the majority, at least a very large part of the population.

But, if you just want to expel Puerto Rico, New Mexico, Southern
California,
and parts of Arizona and Texas and give it all back to Mexico just so you
can
call those people immigrants, well then you might have a point.


Well, that is a very compelling proposition! :-)

Matt

Only if you get to throw Washington, DC into the deal. We declare that a
Spanish speaking territory (because it largely is) and give it to Mexico. The
only requirement is that anyone serving in office or working there in any
capacity, paid or unpaid, or who has ever worked there, will be declared a
resident of Mexico and be deported from the US as an undocumented alien.

Once we are rid of them, we can turn on the telephone sanitizers,
hairdressers, marketing people, and other useless members of society like a
pack of dogs. Maybe even send them to another planet. :-)

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor