gear up landing of a Piper Arrow

Always better to land with the mains down or with them up if
wing and nose. But A proper pre-flight and maintenance
reduces the issue to a rare case. But then lots of people
don't do the maintenance they should do.


"buttman" wrote in message
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| On Feb 16, 9:25 am, "Al G"
wrote:
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
|
| ...
|
| "other three?" Who knew the Arrow had 4 ?
|
| And isn't "three gear get stuck in the down
position." what you want?
|
| Al G
|
|
|
| "buttman" wrote in message
|
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| |http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/
| |
| | click on "emergency response to troubled plane"
| |
| | An arrow tried to bounce the plane on the runway to
get
| the stuck
| | landing gear to come down, but all it did was make
the
| other three
| | gear get stuck in the down position.
| |
|
| gah. I meant to say the Arrow has 1 gear that was stuck
up, and the
| other two were down. After the bouceing (which I have
never heard of
| anyone doing), the two that he was able to get down, were
then stuck
| in the down position. I was always under the impression
that it's
| better to land on the plan's belly (with no gear down)
than it is to
| land with only 2 of the 3 gear down.
|

On Feb 16, 9:06 pm, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
Always better to land with the mains down or with them up if
wing and nose. But A proper pre-flight and maintenance
reduces the issue to a rare case. But then lots of people
don't do the maintenance they should do.

Its amazing how often such a stuck gear situation follows immediately
after maintenance or after a really hard landing.

-Robert

Recap tires, tires over inflated, low strut or over inflated
strut, tow bar still attached to nose wheel.

I actually had some first hand knowledge of that incident.
Pilot flew in late in the evening, line person had to get
special tow bar for the aircraft. Line boy left it on the
aircraft, to speed up the departure the next morning.
Pilot comes out at dawn, does a "thorough pre-flight" and
takes-off with the tow bar adapter still on the nose wheel
[Piper Arrow]. Aircraft was high time.
Nose wheel stuck 1/2 way up, Pilot flew around for a while
and then landed. Airframe damage was limited to nose and
firewall. In my mind the pilot was solely responsible since
that big chunk of red painted iron was visible.

But the FBO bought the pilot a new engine, prop, and all
other parts and installed them at no charge. I guess they
thought that a jury might not understand the phrase "pilot
in command."


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...
| On Feb 16, 9:06 pm, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| Always better to land with the mains down or with them
up if
| wing and nose. But A proper pre-flight and maintenance
| reduces the issue to a rare case. But then lots of
people
| don't do the maintenance they should do.
|
| Its amazing how often such a stuck gear situation follows
immediately
| after maintenance or after a really hard landing.
|
| -Robert
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote:
I guess they thought that a jury might not understand the phrase "pilot
in command."

Which is probably a reasonable guess.

A jury of my peer would know all about airplanes, firearms,
criminal law, etc. They would know terms such as "ring gap"
or "P-lead" as well as the difference between Bullseye and
Unique or Red Dot and Blue Dot.

But just like me, all attorneys will excuse them form a jury
because they can't be manipulated.


"Roy Smith" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
| I guess they thought that a jury might not understand
the phrase "pilot
| in command."
|
| Which is probably a reasonable guess.
|