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  #231  
Old February 16th 07, 11:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default Iowa Aviation Weather...en Espanol

In article m,
C J Campbell wrote:

How many citizens can only read/write Spanish?


I am disturbed by the apparent assumption that any Spanish speaker must be an
illegal alien.


Are you suggesting that the question implied any assumptions?

The vast majority of Spanish speakers in the US are citizens.
A lot of them are descended from people who were living in what is now the
USA long before the Mayflower ever got here. It really is ignorant not to
know that.


Spanish, like English, is an imported language.

I'm, in part, a descendent of people living here way before Spanish or English
arrived.

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  #232  
Old February 16th 07, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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I submit that it is your brand of ambiguity toward the proper role of
our government that has led to our current situation.


We differ fundamentally on what is wrong with "our current situation".

Jose
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  #233  
Old February 17th 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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ktbr writes:

I'll take freedom ... the freedom to stop participating in the Social
Security system and get all the money I have paid in back so I could be
allowed to invest the way I want to. I assure you I'd be much better off
in the long run. But alas, I have no such freedom to do that.


It can't be done, because all the money you've put into the system has already
been given to someone else.

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  #234  
Old February 17th 07, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

I submit that it is your brand of ambiguity toward the proper role of
our government that has led to our current situation. Power will
always fill a vacuum, and as long as there are citizens who think "Oh,
well, it would be nice if the governent would fill in the blank for
us", we will be ever-more restricted.

I fear this type of insidious encroachment on our freedoms far more
than any overt moves by Homeland Security.


Just because it is overt doesn't mean that it is harmless.

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  #235  
Old February 17th 07, 12:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I submit that it is your brand of ambiguity toward the proper role of
our government that has led to our current situation.


We differ fundamentally on what is wrong with "our current situation".


Boy, that's for sure!

I do believe you have put your finger on what is so bitterly dividing
our nation today. Not only can't we agree on the solutions, we can't
even agree on the problems.

:-(
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  #236  
Old February 17th 07, 12:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I fear this type of insidious encroachment on our freedoms far more
than any overt moves by Homeland Security.


Just because it is overt doesn't mean that it is harmless.


True, but at least I can fight what I can see.

Most of what has happened to destroy freedom in America has occurred
bit by bit, incrementally, over a fairly long period of time -- and
(worst of all) has been done by people who think they are helping.
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  #237  
Old February 17th 07, 12:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Not only can't we agree on the solutions, we can't
even agree on the problems.


Wiser words were never spoken.

If we can't define the problem, no solution will work.

Jose
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follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
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  #238  
Old February 17th 07, 02:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Jose wrote:

Not only can't we agree on the solutions, we can't
even agree on the problems.



Wiser words were never spoken.

If we can't define the problem, no solution will work.


Or any solution will work. If you don't know where you are going ...
any road will take you there.

Matt
  #239  
Old February 17th 07, 02:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I'm, in part, a descendent of people living here way before Spanish or English
arrived.


As are we all.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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  #240  
Old February 17th 07, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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If we can't define the problem, no solution will work.
Or any solution will work. If you don't know where you are going ... any road will take you there.


Well, the problem is that each of us =thinks= we know where we (should
be) going.

Jose
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follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
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