Transfer of IGC log for contest scoring

"Richard" wrote in message
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Contests that I have competed in, over the last 5 years the scorer
wants nothing to do with a flight recorder, they would not accept
them. They required SD Card, USB sticks. disk etc.

I sell a nice Colibri with a mini SD Card.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com


I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB stick.
Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much for the
scorer to handle.

Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.

Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC. The
scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly the
same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software or
drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action you
will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with connecting to
the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts like a card
reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla to
copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.


"Bert Willing" wrote in message
...
Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.

No Paul I didn't miss the point. The scorer didn't want to deal with
flight recorders in general, if one then why not all questions, and
they don't want to provide security for recorders that are left in the
scoring office or just in the hanger. In short the scorers in the
contests I was in just did'nt want to deal with flight recorders.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com


On Feb 20, 8:57 am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC. The
scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly the
same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software or
drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action you
will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with connecting to
the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts like a card
reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla to
copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Bert Willing" wrote in message

...



Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Richard wrote:
No Paul I didn't miss the point. The scorer didn't want to deal with
flight recorders in general, if one then why not all questions,

If you mean what I think you thought you meant ( ), the reason to
make an exception for the EW is that downloading doesn't require a
special program or cables or special knowledge - unlike all previous
loggers.

It's a memory stick just like all the others that scorers are demanding!

and
they don't want to provide security for recorders that are left in the
scoring office or just in the hanger.

So. No security for 50 or so cards and sticks? No security for the
scorers' laptops? No security for the scorer's data on the laptops?
Try again, Richard.

... In short the scorers in the
contests I was in just didn't want to deal with flight recorders.

No. They didn't want to deal with EXISTING flight recorders. This one
sounds great and I'd be happy as a scorer to have one handed in. MUCH
happier than to be given a Colibri or Volkslogger, both of which I would
hand back and say - put it on a stick.

If you're going to get grumpy with Paul, we're going to make you stand
in the corner for a month. You're both only here on sufferance.

GC
Richard
www.craggyaero.com


On Feb 20, 8:57 am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC. The
scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly the
same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software or
drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action you
will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with connecting to
the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts like a card
reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla to
copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Bert Willing" wrote in message

...



Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Excuse me Graeme, I forgot that this is Paul's personal advertising
news group.

Richard

On Feb 20, 8:11 pm, Graeme Cant gcantinter@tnodedotnet wrote:
Richard wrote:
No Paul I didn't miss the point. The scorer didn't want to deal with
flight recorders in general, if one then why not all questions,

If you mean what I think you thought you meant ( ), the reason to
make an exception for the EW is that downloading doesn't require a
special program or cables or special knowledge - unlike all previous
loggers.

It's a memory stick just like all the others that scorers are demanding!

and
they don't want to provide security for recorders that are left in the
scoring office or just in the hanger.

So. No security for 50 or so cards and sticks? No security for the
scorers' laptops? No security for the scorer's data on the laptops?
Try again, Richard.

... In short the scorers in the
contests I was in just didn't want to deal with flight recorders.

No. They didn't want to deal with EXISTING flight recorders. This one
sounds great and I'd be happy as a scorer to have one handed in. MUCH
happier than to be given a Colibri or Volkslogger, both of which I would
hand back and say - put it on a stick.

If you're going to get grumpy with Paul, we're going to make you stand
in the corner for a month. You're both only here on sufferance.

GC



Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Feb 20, 8:57 am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC. The
scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly the
same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software or
drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action you
will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with connecting to
the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts like a card
reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla to
copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Bert Willing" wrote in message

...

Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Richard wrote:
Excuse me Graeme, I forgot that this is Paul's personal advertising
news group.

No Richard. It's NOBODY'S personal advertising group. I said you're
BOTH here on sufferance.

I disagree with your view because it seems to have holes in it. If you
advertise on ras (which I'm happy to have you do), you must also accept
that you're open to differing views.

I have been part of a scoring group which accepted loggers. I would
never accept loggers again but if the EW works as described, I would
make it an exception.

The whole discussion's probably moot anyhow because most comps here seem
to have wireless networks now. Very few physical objects at all are
handed in.

GC


Richard

On Feb 20, 8:11 pm, Graeme Cant gcantinter@tnodedotnet wrote:
Richard wrote:
No Paul I didn't miss the point. The scorer didn't want to deal with
flight recorders in general, if one then why not all questions,
If you mean what I think you thought you meant ( ), the reason to
make an exception for the EW is that downloading doesn't require a
special program or cables or special knowledge - unlike all previous
loggers.

It's a memory stick just like all the others that scorers are demanding!

and
they don't want to provide security for recorders that are left in the
scoring office or just in the hanger.
So. No security for 50 or so cards and sticks? No security for the
scorers' laptops? No security for the scorer's data on the laptops?
Try again, Richard.

... In short the scorers in the
contests I was in just didn't want to deal with flight recorders.
No. They didn't want to deal with EXISTING flight recorders. This one
sounds great and I'd be happy as a scorer to have one handed in. MUCH
happier than to be given a Colibri or Volkslogger, both of which I would
hand back and say - put it on a stick.

If you're going to get grumpy with Paul, we're going to make you stand
in the corner for a month. You're both only here on sufferance.

GC



Richard
www.craggyaero.com
On Feb 20, 8:57 am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi,
I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC. The
scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly the
same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software or
drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action you
will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with connecting to
the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts like a card
reader.
I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla to
copy flight logs from the Colibri.
Good Soaring,
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
"Bert Willing" wrote in message
...
Because they don't want to get into anything which looks like a cable
connector. USB sticks or SD cards are simply shown as drives after
insertion, and you pull the respective file.
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
I don't see why a EW miroRecorder would be less convenient that a USB
stick. Maybe the technology associated with the ON/OFF switch is too much
for the scorer to handle.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Paul,

I originally assumed that the unit had to be turned on in order to access
the files contained in memory. It appears from your posting that the 5V
provide by the USB cable actuates memory access just like it does in a
"thumb" drives. Cool!!

Wayne
EW Model D owner.


"Paul Remde" wrote in message
news:8MFCh.5413$PD2.2898@attbi_s22...
Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC.
The scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly
the same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no software
or drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it in action
you will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem with
connecting to the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it acts
like a card reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla
to copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Hi Wayne,

Yep.

Paul Remde

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
Paul,

I originally assumed that the unit had to be turned on in order to access
the files contained in memory. It appears from your posting that the 5V
provide by the USB cable actuates memory access just like it does in a
"thumb" drives. Cool!!

Wayne
EW Model D owner.


"Paul Remde" wrote in message
news:8MFCh.5413$PD2.2898@attbi_s22...
Hi,

I think you and Richard are missing the point about how easy the EW
microRecorder is to use. You connect it to your PC using a standard USB
cable and it looks exactly like a card reader or hard drive to the PC.
The scorer can copy and paste the files from the EW to the PC in exactly
the same way he/she copies files from a card reader. There is no
software or drivers required. It is extremely simple. Once you see it
in action you will most likely agree that no scorer will have a problem
with connecting to the logger because it doesn't act like a logger - it
acts like a card reader.

I agree that it is nice that the new Colibri has a built-in microSD card
reader because then the scorer won't need to use LXe or SeeYou or StrePla
to copy flight logs from the Colibri.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.