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Old July 27th 03, 03:25 AM
Eric Moore
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"JDupre5762" wrote in message
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Did the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force and the Imperial Japanese Navy

Air
Force operate any of the same make of aircraft? It seems to me that that

at
least with some combat aircraft the two services might have economically
ordered from the same production lines and saved some money and opened up

some
factories for producing more of other types of aircraft?

John Dupre'


The IJN and the Japanese Army were deadly rivals in the power
struggles that characterised Japanese politcs of the 20's, 30's and
40's its unlikley they would ever co-operate on anything.

That said the requirements of shipborne aircraft tend to vary from those
of land based aircraft and the USN and USAAF used different aircraft
too as did the RAF and FAA.

Keith



"Deadly rivals"? Did the Army and IJN do assassinations on each other
or something?
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Old July 27th 03, 04:19 AM
Thomas Schoene
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"Eric Moore" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in
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"JDupre5762" wrote in message
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Did the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force and the Imperial
Japanese Navy

Air
Force operate any of the same make of aircraft? It seems to me
that that

at
least with some combat aircraft the two services might have
economically
ordered from the same production lines and saved some money and
opened up

some
factories for producing more of other types of aircraft?

John Dupre'


The IJN and the Japanese Army were deadly rivals in the power
struggles that characterised Japanese politcs of the 20's, 30's and
40's its unlikley they would ever co-operate on anything.

That said the requirements of shipborne aircraft tend to vary from
those
of land based aircraft and the USN and USAAF used different aircraft
too as did the RAF and FAA.

Keith



"Deadly rivals"? Did the Army and IJN do assassinations on each
other
or something?


Something fairly close to it. Right-wing Japanese nationalists aligned with
parts of the Imperial Japanese Army had been using assasination and threats
of violence against political leaders thoughout the 1930s. In roughly
1940-41, Admiral Yamamoto was rumored to be a target of assasination
efforts for arguing against war with the United States. In some versions of
the story, that's how he ended up in command of the Japanese fleet in
December 1941; his bosses decided he was safer at sea than in a Tokyo
office.

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Old July 27th 03, 12:28 PM
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Something fairly close to it. Right-wing Japanese nationalists aligned

with
parts of the Imperial Japanese Army had been using assasination and

threats
of violence against political leaders thoughout the 1930s. In roughly
1940-41, Admiral Yamamoto was rumored to be a target of assasination
efforts for arguing against war with the United States. In some versions

of
the story, that's how he ended up in command of the Japanese fleet in
December 1941; his bosses decided he was safer at sea than in a Tokyo
office.


To be precise. safer on the Battleship Yamato, which he used as his HQ



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Old July 27th 03, 12:57 PM
Keith Willshaw
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Something fairly close to it. Right-wing Japanese nationalists aligned

with
parts of the Imperial Japanese Army had been using assasination and

threats
of violence against political leaders thoughout the 1930s. In roughly
1940-41, Admiral Yamamoto was rumored to be a target of assasination
efforts for arguing against war with the United States. In some

versions
of
the story, that's how he ended up in command of the Japanese fleet in
December 1941; his bosses decided he was safer at sea than in a Tokyo
office.


To be precise. safer on the Battleship Yamato, which he used as his HQ


IRC his first flagship on returning to sea was the Nagato as the Yamato
was still fitting out.

Keith


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Old July 27th 03, 12:38 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Eric Moore" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message

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"JDupre5762" wrote in message
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Did the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force and the Imperial Japanese

Navy
Air
Force operate any of the same make of aircraft? It seems to me that

that
at
least with some combat aircraft the two services might have

economically
ordered from the same production lines and saved some money and opened

up
some
factories for producing more of other types of aircraft?

John Dupre'


The IJN and the Japanese Army were deadly rivals in the power
struggles that characterised Japanese politcs of the 20's, 30's and
40's its unlikley they would ever co-operate on anything.

That said the requirements of shipborne aircraft tend to vary from those
of land based aircraft and the USN and USAAF used different aircraft
too as did the RAF and FAA.

Keith



"Deadly rivals"? Did the Army and IJN do assassinations on each

other
or something?


Yes indeed they did, assassination was a prime tool of Japanese
politics of the time. Here are just a few incidents

May 15 "May Incident" (5.15)Assassination of Prime Minister
Inukai Tsuyoshi by Navy-inspired extremists.

1934 Nov. "Military Academy Incident"assassination and coup plot by cadets
discovered

1935 August General Nagata Tetsuzan cut down by a young army officer
1936 Feb. "February 26th Incident" (2.26)led by junior field grade officers
in capital area with strong civilian inspiration seize area around Imperial
Palace and downtown Tokyo. PM Okada escaped, Grand Chamberlain Suzuki
wounded, Lord Privy Seal and former-PM Saitô and Finance Min. Takahashi
killed. Collapses after the Emperor demands they be labeled rebels and loyal
army units and the navy's big guns are arrayed against them. Most rebels
executed without public trial.

Keith


 




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