Sirius and XM merger?

On 2/22/2007 7:35:02 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:

I just wonder why there is not some other source of datalinked information available. I mean, why does this
have to come
in from satellites?

This type of signal offers 100% coverage within the satellite's broadcast
"footprint." What alternative did you have in mind?

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message ...
: On 2/22/2007 7:35:02 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:
:
: I just wonder why there is not some other source of datalinked information available. I mean, why does this
: have to come
: in from satellites?
:
: This type of signal offers 100% coverage within the satellite's broadcast
: "footprint." What alternative did you have in mind?
:
: --
: Peter

Like the SAS on the TV for instance, but it would be limited to the TV range. Maybe a sideband on the VOR or upload from
the radar...

Blueskies wrote:
"Peter R." wrote in message ...
: On 2/22/2007 7:35:02 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:
:
: I just wonder why there is not some other source of datalinked information available. I mean, why does this
: have to come
: in from satellites?
:
: This type of signal offers 100% coverage within the satellite's broadcast
: "footprint." What alternative did you have in mind?
:
: --
: Peter

Like the SAS on the TV for instance, but it would be limited to the TV range. Maybe a sideband on the VOR or upload from
the radar...





Cost of 2 sats Cost of hundreds of ground based transmitters

I guess nobody pays any attention to poor old Bendix-King any more...

Prior to the advent of XM, Bendix-King offered their own version of inflight
weather using ground-based stations.

From:
https://www3.bendixking.com/wingman/...a=sso.fis.page

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General Aviation's first high-speed broadcast weather network makes flying
safer, easier and more enjoyable.
The nationwide system uses a network of Honeywell ground stations to uplink
a broad range of free and fee-based aeronautical data. As part of an FAA
program called Flight Information Services (FIS), Honeywell has been granted
use of two frequencies to broadcast weather throughout the United States.
Utilizing a newly designed, wholly-owned network of 150-plus ground
stations, pilots are able to receive high-resolution graphical weather
products that are updated automatically with no impact on pilot workload.

Weather is one of the leading factors cited in aviation accidents. National
aviation forums have repeatedly identified improved weather information in
the cockpit, especially in graphical form, as a key strategy for reducing
weather-related accidents.With Honeywell's Data Link Weather, General
Aviation pilots can experience a new level of situational awareness and
flight safety

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It has only been in the last year or so that Bendix-King introduced their
KDR 610 XM reveiver....



"601XL Builder" wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in message
...
Blueskies wrote:
"Peter R." wrote in message
...
: On 2/22/2007 7:35:02 PM, "Blueskies" wrote:
:
: I just wonder why there is not some other source of datalinked
information available. I mean, why does this
: have to come
: in from satellites?
:
: This type of signal offers 100% coverage within the satellite's
broadcast
: "footprint." What alternative did you have in mind?
:
: --
: Peter

Like the SAS on the TV for instance, but it would be limited to the TV
range. Maybe a sideband on the VOR or upload from
the radar...





Cost of 2 sats Cost of hundreds of ground based transmitters

"Bill Denton" wrote in message . ..
:I guess nobody pays any attention to poor old Bendix-King any more...
:
: Prior to the advent of XM, Bendix-King offered their own version of inflight
: weather using ground-based stations.
:
: From:
: https://www3.bendixking.com/wingman/...a=sso.fis.page
-----------------------------------------------
: General Aviation's first high-speed broadcast weather network makes flying
: safer, easier and more enjoyable.
: The nationwide system uses a network of Honeywell ground stations to uplink
: a broad range of free and fee-based aeronautical data. As part of an FAA
: program called Flight Information Services (FIS), Honeywell has been granted
: use of two frequencies to broadcast weather throughout the United States.
: Utilizing a newly designed, wholly-owned network of 150-plus ground
: stations, pilots are able to receive high-resolution graphical weather
: products that are updated automatically with no impact on pilot workload.
:
: Weather is one of the leading factors cited in aviation accidents. National
: aviation forums have repeatedly identified improved weather information in
: the cockpit, especially in graphical form, as a key strategy for reducing
: weather-related accidents.With Honeywell's Data Link Weather, General
: Aviation pilots can experience a new level of situational awareness and
: flight safety
:
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: It has only been in the last year or so that Bendix-King introduced their
: KDR 610 XM reveiver....
:
:

That is exactly what I had in mind. Odd that is does not get the press that Garmin and XM get...

Blueskies wrote:
"Bill Denton" wrote in message . ..
:I guess nobody pays any attention to poor old Bendix-King any more...
:
: Prior to the advent of XM, Bendix-King offered their own version of inflight
: weather using ground-based stations.
:
: From:
: https://www3.bendixking.com/wingman/...a=sso.fis.page
-----------------------------------------------
: General Aviation's first high-speed broadcast weather network makes flying
: safer, easier and more enjoyable.
: The nationwide system uses a network of Honeywell ground stations to uplink
: a broad range of free and fee-based aeronautical data. As part of an FAA
: program called Flight Information Services (FIS), Honeywell has been granted
: use of two frequencies to broadcast weather throughout the United States.
: Utilizing a newly designed, wholly-owned network of 150-plus ground
: stations, pilots are able to receive high-resolution graphical weather
: products that are updated automatically with no impact on pilot workload.
:
: Weather is one of the leading factors cited in aviation accidents. National
: aviation forums have repeatedly identified improved weather information in
: the cockpit, especially in graphical form, as a key strategy for reducing
: weather-related accidents.With Honeywell's Data Link Weather, General
: Aviation pilots can experience a new level of situational awareness and
: flight safety
:
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: It has only been in the last year or so that Bendix-King introduced their
: KDR 610 XM reveiver....
:
:

That is exactly what I had in mind. Odd that is does not get the press that Garmin and XM get...




It's not odd at all. It's not an open service meaning you have to use
their expensive hardware.

"601XL Builder" wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in message ...
: Blueskies wrote:
:
:
: That is exactly what I had in mind. Odd that is does not get the press that Garmin and XM get...
:
:
:
:
: It's not odd at all. It's not an open service meaning you have to use
: their expensive hardware.

Sirius and XM are both closed systems that require their expensive hardware. I was just reading in Avweek that XM has
over 800 ground stations to supplement their signals, and Sirius, because of their three '24 hour' satellites, only has
a few hundred ground stations. Neither of these systems has ever made any money, and the are making very bad business
decisions ($500 million for Stern?!).

I think it is odd that they get all this press...