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Old February 23rd 07, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Allen[_1_]
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
.. .
I'm not saying that ATC didn't have a problem, but by the same token, it
is also unacceptable for the pilot to continue to his destination after he
declared an emergency to avoid the delays and hassles of diverting to a
closer airport.

Mike Schumann


He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through about
13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where would you land?
What were the weather conditions?


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Old February 23rd 07, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Allen wrote:


He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through about
13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where would you
land? What were the weather conditions?


KTKI has 7000 feet of runway, KADS had 7200 feet of runway. Both were in his
flight path.



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Old February 23rd 07, 08:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through about
13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where would you land?
What were the weather conditions?


KTKI has 7000 feet of runway, KADS had 7200 feet of runway. Both were in
his flight path.



If he had an engine on fire or smoke in the cockpit, would he have continued
on to DFW, or chosen KTKI or KADS?


Montblack


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Old February 23rd 07, 10:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Montblack wrote:
("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through
about 13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where
would you land? What were the weather conditions?


KTKI has 7000 feet of runway, KADS had 7200 feet of runway. Both
were in his flight path.



If he had an engine on fire or smoke in the cockpit, would he have
continued on to DFW, or chosen KTKI or KADS?


Montblack


Exactly!!!!!


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Old February 23rd 07, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Exactly!!!!!


Exactly what?


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Old February 24th 07, 09:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Exactly!!!!!


Exactly what?



MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.
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Old February 24th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"601XL Builder" wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in message
news:45E0A989.1090806@suddenlinkDOTnet...

MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.


Did he? Perhaps you assume too much. Maybe he'd prefer the field with
appropriate crash/fire/rescue capability. I think that'd be DFW.


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Old February 25th 07, 01:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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601XL Builder wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in news:45E0A989.1090806
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MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.


If the aircraft was on fire, the pilot would probably do an emergency
accelerated descent. However, if he were at low fuel, an accelerated descent
would probably not be desirable.

If he was truly at 15,000', and at a 4-5 mi/min airspeed, 81 miles would be
about right...
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Old February 23rd 07, 08:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Allen wrote:


He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through about
13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where would you
land? What were the weather conditions?



KTKI has 7000 feet of runway, KADS had 7200 feet of runway. Both were in his
flight path.




I believe you normally cross Bonham at 11K and near KTKI you are around
6K and going down.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old February 23rd 07, 10:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ross wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Allen wrote:


He was over Bonham VOR, 81 miles out probably descending through
about 13,000 - 15,000 ft msl traveling 4-5 miles/minute. Where
would you land? What were the weather conditions?



KTKI has 7000 feet of runway, KADS had 7200 feet of runway. Both
were in his flight path.




I believe you normally cross Bonham at 11K and near KTKI you are
around 6K and going down.

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI


Well we aren't talking normal conditions here though are we?

Let's face it. ATC screwed up and so did the pilot. When ATC offered him
vectors to two closer airports (and I have no idea if they were the two I
mentioned above) and he refused them ATC probably decided it wasn't as much
of an emergency as one might think.

We all know he refused them to lessen the impact (bad word to use) on the
airlines schedule for the rest of the day.


 




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