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Old February 23rd 07, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Exactly!!!!!


Exactly what?


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Old February 24th 07, 09:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Exactly!!!!!


Exactly what?



MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.
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Old February 24th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"601XL Builder" wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in message
news:45E0A989.1090806@suddenlinkDOTnet...

MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.


Did he? Perhaps you assume too much. Maybe he'd prefer the field with
appropriate crash/fire/rescue capability. I think that'd be DFW.


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Old February 25th 07, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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If your aircraft is on fire, you need to land immediately. Availability of
fire / crash rescue resources is not an issue. Getting off the aircraft as
quickly as possible is the issue. Just look at what happened with the
Swissair flight over the atlantic, who took their sweet time while the were
researching where the smoke was coming from.

Mike Schumann

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"601XL Builder" wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in message
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MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.


Did he? Perhaps you assume too much. Maybe he'd prefer the field with
appropriate crash/fire/rescue capability. I think that'd be DFW.




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Old February 25th 07, 12:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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If your aircraft is on fire, you need to land immediately. Availability
of fire / crash rescue resources is not an issue. Getting off the
aircraft as quickly as possible is the issue. Just look at what happened
with the Swissair flight over the atlantic, who took their sweet time
while the were researching where the smoke was coming from.


Then you don't need an airport at all.


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Old February 25th 07, 01:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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601XL Builder wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in news:45E0A989.1090806
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MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire that the pilot
probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.


If the aircraft was on fire, the pilot would probably do an emergency
accelerated descent. However, if he were at low fuel, an accelerated descent
would probably not be desirable.

If he was truly at 15,000', and at a 4-5 mi/min airspeed, 81 miles would be
about right...
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Old February 25th 07, 02:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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If he was at 81 miles [first I've seen that number], then
ATC did have time to clear the airspace. Just where was the
airplane when the pilot declared the emergency and where was
he when he asked for straight in to 17?



"Judah" wrote in message
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| 601XL Builder wrDOTgiacona@suddenlinkDOTnet wrote in
news:45E0A989.1090806
| @suddenlinkDOTnet:
|
| MB made the point that had the aircraft been on fire
that the pilot
| probably wouldn't have bypassed the other two airports.
|
| If the aircraft was on fire, the pilot would probably do
an emergency
| accelerated descent. However, if he were at low fuel, an
accelerated descent
| would probably not be desirable.
|
| If he was truly at 15,000', and at a 4-5 mi/min airspeed,
81 miles would be
| about right...


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Old February 25th 07, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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I don't know - I was quoting someone else who said he was 81 miles out...

Which is why I said "If"...




"Jim Macklin" wrote in
:

If he was at 81 miles [first I've seen that number], then
ATC did have time to clear the airspace. Just where was the
airplane when the pilot declared the emergency and where was
he when he asked for straight in to 17?

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Old February 25th 07, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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There really is too much speculation, TV reports are not
reliable and knee-jerk reactions don't clarify the issue.


"Judah" wrote in message
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|I don't know - I was quoting someone else who said he was
81 miles out...
|
| Which is why I said "If"...
|
|
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in
| :
|
| If he was at 81 miles [first I've seen that number],
then
| ATC did have time to clear the airspace. Just where was
the
| airplane when the pilot declared the emergency and where
was
| he when he asked for straight in to 17?


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Old February 25th 07, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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There really is too much speculation, TV reports are not
reliable and knee-jerk reactions don't clarify the issue.


The TV report played the tapes and the FAA confirmed ATC was wrong.


 




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