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Old February 25th 07, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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Default ATC Handling of Low-Fuel American Flight

I copied the whole thing previously. Yes, I have honor and
common sense.
I clearly stated that not every request can be granted, but
91.03 does say you can do what you want and not be violated
for breaking a FAR if that was required to handle the
emergency. It does not give blanket protection for any
action not needed.
If you'll notice I used 2-1-1 to show the FAAs use of the
limitations exception, not as a total argument.
see a dictionary for carte blanche...

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
message
nk.net...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
|
| Right of way DOES NOT mean carte blanche, see
| 2-1-1. ATC SERVICE
|
| The primary purpose of the ATC system is to prevent
a
| collision between aircraft operating in the system and
to
| organize and expedite the flow of traffic. In addition
to
| its primary function, the ATC system has the capability
to
| provide (with certain limitations) additional services.
The
| ability to provide additional services is limited by
many
| factors, such as the volume of traffic, frequency
| congestion, quality of radar, controller workload,
higher
| priority duties, and the pure physical inability to scan
and
| detect those situations that fall in this category. It
is
| recognized that these services cannot be provided in
cases
| in which the provision of services is precluded by the
above
| factors. Consistent with the aforementioned conditions,
| controllers shall provide additional service procedures
to
| the extent permitted by higher priority duties and other
| circumstances. The provision of additional services is
not
| optional on the part of the controller, but rather is
| required when the work situation permits. Provide air
| traffic control service in accordance with the
procedures
| and minima in this order except when:
|
|
| Right of way is a statutory right granted an airplane to
proceed ahead of
| another. I see that you deleted subparagraph c. from your
copy and paste of
| FAAO 7110.65 paragraph 2-1-1. You have no honor.
|
|
|
| No document I have found says that declaring EMERGENCY
means
| ATC shall grant any pilot request, those requests have
| limitations due to traffic and other events. Right of
way
| and priority handling does not mean that every PIC
request,
| demand or wish can, will or should be granted.
|
|
| What does it mean to you?
|
|
|
| We all do the best we can, that includes pilots and ATC.
|
|
| Did ATC do the best they could in this case?
|
|


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Old February 26th 07, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default ATC Handling of Low-Fuel American Flight


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I copied the whole thing previously.


Why didn't you read it?



Yes, I have honor and common sense.


You have neither.



I clearly stated that not every request can be granted, but
91.03 does say you can do what you want and not be violated
for breaking a FAR if that was required to handle the
emergency. It does not give blanket protection for any
action not needed.
If you'll notice I used 2-1-1 to show the FAAs use of the
limitations exception, not as a total argument.
see a dictionary for carte blanche...


The request we're discussing could have been granted, and should have.


 




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