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  #81  
Old February 26th 07, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
Marcel Kuijper[_2_]
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"Nomen Nescio" wrote:

Hope this helps.


ROTFLMAO!!!!

You bet it does! Dude, you da man!
Yes siree, this guy probably has a sign around his neck that
reads: "My mommy won't let me cross the street."


Marcel


  #82  
Old February 26th 07, 09:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
Don Burnette
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"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
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In my view, if my pulse is racing and I'm sweating, I've failed as a

pilot.

Translation: My pulse races and I sweat when I try to get out of a chair.

Hope this helps.



ROTFLMAO!

That was awesome, thank you!!!


Don


  #83  
Old February 26th 07, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Terry 56W[_2_]
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Flying a Cherokee180 I will always turn off the the engine for safety
sake and I won't start the engine if there's someone behind me,
fueling or working on their airplane. I will turn the plane away from
that individual for safety and out of courtesy. There's no reason to
take a chance. I use the chocks everytime I leave the airplane,
including in the hanger, and carry several sets with me. The larger
airports with a lineman will usually use their own set of chokes. I
have helped push a Cessna out of the snow with the power applied and
the slip stream was pretty strong, not something I would wish on
someone else.


  #84  
Old February 26th 07, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Little Endian writes:

Then I think your simulator does not really simulate flying of an
airplane properly.


It does, but sometimes minor differences throw people off, especially if
they've come to depend on them. A good pilot, however, can adapt very
quickly. The most obvious differences in this respect are somewhat different
control mechanisms and a slightly different visual experience.

I cannot consider a simulator to be worth anything
if a real life pilot cannot fly it without any problems.


If real-life pilots could fly simulators without any problems, you wouldn't
need simulators.

What is a tin-can pilot?


A pilot who has experience only with small general-aviation aircraft.

Yes, but what you are talking about is not simulation of flying
because according to you, real life pilots cannot takeoff or land in
your simulator.


Some can, some can't. On a good machine with appropriate controls, they
should all be able to do it, or something is wrong.

The simulator does not depict the beauty of the Rocky Mountains in any
way.


It's not a scenery simulator.

I have hiked all over the Rockies and its not possible to
replicate that beauty of Romo in a simulator with fake images.


It's not a hiking simulator, either.

Maybe so but that is how we learn to become better real life pilots.


No, that is how one discovers that he is a poor pilot, or that he is in a
situation that he will not survive.

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Old February 26th 07, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
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Nomen Nescio wrote:

Hope this helps.


Absolute corker!

You almost made me miss class, laughing too hard on the way there.

TheSmokingGnu
  #86  
Old February 26th 07, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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It does, but sometimes minor differences throw people off, especially if
they've come to depend on them. A good pilot, however, can adapt very
quickly. The most obvious differences in this respect are somewhat different
control mechanisms and a slightly different visual experience.


You are not a pilot.
You do not understand the social interactions on the radio (or on this
forum, evidently).
You do not understand how to flare on landing (Even your beloved
Commercial pilots will tell you the flare is a purely 'seat-of-the-
pants' action... there's a reason autoland sucks),
You do not understand a basic traffic pattern
You do not understand how wear and tear effects and airplane.
You do not understand the thrill of looking down a runway.
You do not understand the beauty of watching the sun set over your
town.

All that you understand is how to push buttons and turn knobs in a
program made up in Redmond to get it to do what you want it to do.
Simulation is worthless without reality, you reject the reality of
flying, then what point is the simulation? To you, Flight simulator
is no better than any other roll playing game, and arbitrary set of
rules to master... Without the passion, thrill, or experience of
actually being up there in the clouds, its completely and utterly
meaningless.

Some can, some can't. On a good machine with appropriate controls, they
should all be able to do it, or something is wrong.


You have no basis for saying that, because you don't know what its
like to fly... They are two fundamentally different actions - one is
providing inputs to a logical system which makes an approximation of
how those inputs would effect a 'virtual' aircraft and provides a
profoundly limited (Narrow-View and audio only) feedback and the other
is controlling a machine as it physically carries you through the
sky...

Simply because the tables and rough physics models of the logical
system provide a rough enough approximation of the aircraft behavior
that they can be useful for learning aircraft systems and procedures
does NOT make the simulation experience anything near actually letting
yourself loose with the world as your playground.

It's not a scenery simulator.


Actually, the problem (at least with MSFS) is that it is - the great
majority of the computing power going into your MSFS game is driving
the graphics and rendering, not the flight model. MSFS actually has a
notoriously BAD flight model, and there's only so much you can do with
pre-rendered flight physics tables.

You put WAY too much faith in the authenticity of your simulation.

MSFS is a GAME. It is not flying. you are not a pilot. If you want to
learn from pilots, fine... if you want to tell us how to experience
our passion in life based on what your GAME is telling you, get lost.

No, that is how one discovers that he is a poor pilot, or that he is in a
situation that he will not survive.


Non-sequitor.

  #87  
Old February 27th 07, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Stewart
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EridanMan wrote:

It does, but sometimes minor differences throw people off, especially if
they've come to depend on them. A good pilot, however, can adapt very
quickly. The most obvious differences in this respect are somewhat different
control mechanisms and a slightly different visual experience.


To which I would add..

The difference between flying a sim and flying an
aircraft is like the difference between having
sex with your hand and having sex with a real
woman/man.





  #88  
Old February 27th 07, 01:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
Is the parking brake on a large aircraft a separate mechanism from the

regular
brakes, or does it use the same mechanism?


Typically alternate pucks in the calipers will be powered by different
hydraulic systems. The parking brake will use one set of pucks.

Which reminds me ... I once took off from LAX in my 747-400, and after a

bit I
happened to look at the gear page on the EICAS, and it showed all the

brakes
in the yellow range for temperature


Did you retrack the gear into the wheel-wells with elevated temperatures?
That could be a major fire hazard.

D.


  #89  
Old February 27th 07, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
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"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
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From: Mxsmanic
I
consider paying $250 an hour for each hour of flight to be very stressful.


Translation: I live on $600 a month


I ain't too far from that, SSA pays about $880/mo
Still flight time is doable tho, even if it's only once a month.

I don't think it's $250 an hour for flight time here tho.

I
consider having to spend thousands of dollars and trudge through endless
paperwork just to be allowed to fly to be unacceptably onerous.


Translation: I ain't smart enough to pass the written test.


All he needs to do is study

I consider a
requirement that one be in Olympic condition to get a license to be an
unnecessary burden.


Translation: I'm so fat I need a shoehorn to squeeze through a doorway.


Sport pilot takes care of that.

I consider the inaccessibility of ownership of an
aircraft to be a major disappointment.


Translation: Nobody wants to buy me a plane.


Join a flight club.
Very few people own their own plane here, but I think we got 1 or 2 club
planes.

I consider the possibility of being
killed to be an uncomfortably high risk


Translation: I sleep with the lights on 'cause the monsters under
my bed come out when it's dark.


cars will kill ya too, even more so.

I consider the absence of bathrooms
on some aircraft to be a major inconvenience.


Translation: I have chronic EXPLOSIVE diarrhea


Airports are nearby


  #90  
Old February 27th 07, 05:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Capt.Doug writes:

Typically alternate pucks in the calipers will be powered by different
hydraulic systems. The parking brake will use one set of pucks.


So setting the parking brake in a large aircraft has some of the same
disadvantages as in a small aircraft, if hydraulic pressure is being
maintained.

Did you retrack the gear into the wheel-wells with elevated temperatures?
That could be a major fire hazard.


Unfortunately, yes. I only found out that the brakes were very hot by
accident, and I was well into my departure by then.

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