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with plain old tire chains on the rear wheels.

Tire chains (and studs) are banned in many places because of the damage
they do to roads. They are not as necessary as they used to be because
of better snow tire and all-weather tire design.

Jose
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Tire chains (and studs) are banned in many places because of the damage
they do to roads. They are not as necessary as they used to be because
of better snow tire and all-weather tire design.

Thank goodness they banned studded tires. I remember Wisconsin's
interstate system in the 1970s being nearly destroyed by all the guys
with studded tires. The lanes actually had 1/2-inch deep grooves worn
in them, from the studs ripping up the concrete and asphalt. It got
down to the rebar, in spots.

That little fiasco cost the taxpayer's billions...
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Tire chains (and studs) are banned in many places because of the damage
they do to roads. They are not as necessary as they used to be because
of better snow tire and all-weather tire design.


Thank goodness they banned studded tires. I remember Wisconsin's
interstate system in the 1970s being nearly destroyed by all the guys
with studded tires. The lanes actually had 1/2-inch deep grooves worn
in them, from the studs ripping up the concrete and asphalt. It got
down to the rebar, in spots.

Interesting as I've never seen an interstate concrete highway that used
rebar... The only metal in most highways is the row of pins used to
lock the sections together at the expansion joints.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote
Interesting as I've never seen an interstate concrete highway that used
rebar... The only metal in most highways is the row of pins used to lock
the sections together at the expansion joints.

The type of concrete highway design varies from un-reinforced slabs with
doweled joints, to rebar reinforced slabs with doweled joints, to welded
wire mesh with doweled joints, to continuous slab reinforced with welded
wire mesh or rebar, or continuous rebar and welded wire mesh.

I have seen older concrete torn up in Columbus Ohio, with tons of rebar, and
recycled into new concrete. I have seen welded wire mesh placed too close
to the surface, and the top layers of concrete worn or spalled (cracked and
flaking) off, and the wire visible.

How the concrete roads were constructed varies partly by region and design
needs, (like cold) and partly by what was thought to be the best method, at
the time.

I suspect that what was seen by the earlier poster was 6 x 6 inch welded
wire mesh. Rebar (in sizes from 5/8" and up) should be placed much deeper
in the pour, and usually stays put, whereas the mesh can easily be misplaced
too close to the surface.

I will not discount the studs and chains accelerating the breakdown of the
concrete, but wire mesh being exposed is in large part due to other forces
breaking down the concrete, and improper mesh placement.

Just my opinions and observations.
--
Jim in NC