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Old February 28th 07, 01:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Feb 27, 7:39 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Since you need two pilots to fly a 747, you must choose two people. I'd pick
the sim pilot and the GA pilot with the IFR experience. Make the sim pilot
PIC, and make the GA pilot FO. It's not necessary to pick a PF because you
can fly and land with full automation.


This response in no way surprises me. Does it surprise anyone else? I
didn't think so.

Of course you don't need two pilots to fly a 747. I've seen it done.
Charlton Heston did it in Airport '75. What-you say? That's not real
life-you say? pot-kettle-black.

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Old February 28th 07, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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GrtArtiste writes:

Of course you don't need two pilots to fly a 747.


In an emergency, you can fly with one. But it's better with two, and you
really only need one person who can follow instructions. It a question of
needing more than two hands for certain procedures.

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Old February 28th 07, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Feb 27, 9:02 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


In an emergency, you can fly with one. But it's better with two, and you
really only need one person who can follow instructions. It a question of
needing more than two hands for certain procedures.



Okay, I call bull**** here...

MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
pilot?? And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"... The
gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
orangutan arms to reach it I think. The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for
a reason... Besides the fact it's on the type certificate... As far as
using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter) would have no
idea how to load and arm the approach. That argument doesn't even
begin to make sense.

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Old February 28th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Kingfish writes:

MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
pilot??


By studying the systems aboard. Most jet airliners with two-man crews can be
flown by a single pilot, it's just a lot more difficult.

And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"...


Why not?

The gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
orangutan arms to reach it I think.


Not at all. When the FO is the pilot flying, the captain lowers the gear, and
he can reach over and do it with no trouble. I've seen him do it. I've sat
in the cockpit myself. It's pretty small and both pilots can reach just about
everything that they need to reach (by design, no doubt).

The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for a reason ...


For redundancy, and because it's a complex aircraft that is a lot easier and
safer to fly when two people are handling it. But it _can_ be flown by one
person, even if that's not a very good idea.

... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.


I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.

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Old February 28th 07, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Feb 27, 11:56 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.


I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.


You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
mastered that aircraft. Congrats.

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Old February 28th 07, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Kingfish writes:

You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
mastered that aircraft. Congrats.


Clearly, you're not familiar with the procedures in question, or you would not
be so surprised when I saw that I know them. Engaging autoland, for example,
requires pressing only a single button.

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Old March 1st 07, 05:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Feb 28, 4:17 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Kingfish writes:
You are too funny (and delusional). I finally see the reality
disconnect here. With all your expertise, you should petition the FAA
Administrator to be awarded a 747-400 type rating. Clearly you have
mastered that aircraft. Congrats.


Clearly, you're not familiar with the procedures in question, or you would not
be so surprised when I saw that I know them. Engaging autoland, for example,
requires pressing only a single button.


You're right, I'm not. I don't fly a 747, I fly a Pilatus. But I'm not
trying to convince people that I actually know how to operate a 747 AP
based only on experience gained from a MS simulator.

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Old March 1st 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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MXs Lunatic spews forth his particular sim of life.

MX your questions and answers are meaningless to us.


Not4wood

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Kingfish writes:

MX, how the f**k can you possibly know a 747 can be flown single
pilot??


By studying the systems aboard. Most jet airliners with two-man crews can
be
flown by a single pilot, it's just a lot more difficult.

And don't say "because I do it all the time on sims"...


Why not?

The gear handle is on the F/O's side, and the left seater would need
orangutan arms to reach it I think.


Not at all. When the FO is the pilot flying, the captain lowers the gear,
and
he can reach over and do it with no trouble. I've seen him do it. I've
sat
in the cockpit myself. It's pretty small and both pilots can reach just
about
everything that they need to reach (by design, no doubt).

The 747-400 requires 2 pilots for a reason ...


For redundancy, and because it's a complex aircraft that is a lot easier
and
safer to fly when two people are handling it. But it _can_ be flown by
one
person, even if that's not a very good idea.

... As far as using autoland a sim pilot (or GA pilot for that matter)
would have no idea how to load and arm the approach.


I do it several times a day. It's not rocket science.

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