![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Jay,
Well, I have just obtained my IR last summer, my experience is limited but already overwhelmingly positive. Here's why: 1. VFR conditions prevail roughly 95% of the time, even here in the rough-and-tumble Midwest. Numbers are lower here in northern Europe, but they are still way above 50 percent. However, that's only partly relevant. The reason: As a pilot, you don't care about the average. You care about a specific day - the one day you wanna go. Someone better at math than myself will tell you exactly what that does to the chances of having VFR weather if you select not any one day out of 365 but "next Sunday". It changes the odds mightily! That's not all. 2. VFR cross country flying can be safely done, with the right attitude, even in marginal equipment like most of us fly. Well, sure. my experience with the IR however is that you go with so much more confidence, with so much less fretting about the weather. A typical IFR flight may be 10 percent in clouds. in the morning, there are some wisps hanging low in the vicinity. VFR, I'd have to fret about whether there will come more, whether fog moves in. IFR, i couldn't care less. And so goes the flight. It's just so much more relaxing from the first planning stages. 3. Obtaining the instrument rating is an excellent exercise, and makes you a much more precise (and thus proficient) pilot, but unless you're moving up to heavier metal, it won't help you much. That's just plain wrong. It helps a lot. 4. This explains why just half of all pilots have pursued the instrument rating, and why a very small percentage of instrument rated pilots are current or proficient. And the numbers for that can be found where? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
4. This explains why just half of all pilots have pursued the
instrument rating, and why a very small percentage of instrument rated pilots are current or proficient. And the numbers for that can be found where? First, Thomas, let me congratulate you on the civil tone of your response. It's quite pleasant, thank you! The low number of current/proficient IFR pilots has been discussed by Richard Collins in Flying magazine (I don't remember the source of his data, sorry), and it's backed up by my personal observations. After five years of catering to pilots at the hotel, of being our AOPA Airport Support Network Volunteer, and of running our airport advocacy group, "Friends of Iowa City Airport", I know one helluva lot of pilots -- and I can count just TWO that are both current and proficient instrument pilots. (Remember, I'm restricting this to Spam-can pilots like us. Obviously our commercially rated pilot guests are a different breed altogether...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On 2/28/2007 1:01:29 PM, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
and I can count just TWO that are both current and proficient instrument pilots. Did you count me into that mix? I met you last summer. ![]() per week since I met you, I am definitely both current and proficient. -- Peter |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
and I can count just TWO that are both current and
proficient instrument pilots. Did you count me into that mix? I met you last summer. ![]() per week since I met you, I am definitely both current and proficient. Yep. (Of course, I tell that to *everyone*... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On 2/28/2007 4:00:54 PM, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
and I can count just TWO that are both current and proficient instrument pilots. Did you count me into that mix? I met you last summer. ![]() per week since I met you, I am definitely both current and proficient. Yep. So you only know one other IFR-rated pilot out of your "helluv a lot of pilots" group who is both current and proficient? I find that difficult to believe. -- Peter |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
I always say currency is black and white while proficiency is always grey.
A current instrument pilot must be aware of his level of proficiency. Right now I'm confident that I'm proficient in all areas of departure, climb, cruise, decent, and arrival procedures and also proficient to shoot most precision and non precision approaches down to minimums in non mountainous terrain, both in radar and non radar environments. Some times I don't feel confident that I am as proficient as that, and when not, my weather minimums go up, my landing airports get more runways and better services, and the entire flight's acceptable level of complexity goes down. Many times an IR will give you more options, but with those options comes an increased responsibility to know your current level of ability and proficiency. Jim |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
On 2/28/2007 4:39:47 PM, "Jim B" wrote:
Right now I'm confident that I'm proficient in all areas of departure, climb, cruise, decent, and arrival procedures and also proficient to shoot most precision and non precision approaches down to minimums in non mountainous terrain, both in radar and non radar environments. Wait a minute... you know Jay, too, so you are the second of the two instrument-rated pilots he knows. That means there are no pilots in Iowa City who are proficient and current. ![]() -- Peter |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Lol! I know nothing
![]() Jim |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Peter R. wrote:
On 2/28/2007 4:39:47 PM, "Jim B" wrote: Right now I'm confident that I'm proficient in all areas of departure, climb, cruise, decent, and arrival procedures and also proficient to shoot most precision and non precision approaches down to minimums in non mountainous terrain, both in radar and non radar environments. Wait a minute... you know Jay, too, so you are the second of the two instrument-rated pilots he knows. That means there are no pilots in Iowa City who are proficient and current. ![]() With their weather and flat land, there is no need to be current and proficient! :-) Matt |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Jim B wrote:
I always say currency is black and white while proficiency is always grey. A current instrument pilot must be aware of his level of proficiency. Right now I'm confident that I'm proficient in all areas of departure, climb, cruise, decent, and arrival procedures and also proficient to shoot most precision and non precision approaches down to minimums in non mountainous terrain, both in radar and non radar environments. Some times I don't feel confident that I am as proficient as that, and when not, my weather minimums go up, my landing airports get more runways and better services, and the entire flight's acceptable level of complexity goes down. Many times an IR will give you more options, but with those options comes an increased responsibility to know your current level of ability and proficiency. Jim I agree. I'm current. I'm proficient, other than GPS and NDB approaches. However, I'm not as skilled as I'd like to be and as I was when I owned an airplane and flew IFR in IMC and into large airports (PHL, BOS, BWI, etc.) on a regular basis. I'd not feel real comfortable flying into a busy airport in IMC at the moment, but flying into a small airport wouldn't be a problem. I used to get bored flying an ILS as the Skylane was so slow I thought I'd never get to the ground. Now, I still have to concentrate to make sure I'm staying ahead of the airplane. I'm safe, but I'm not at the level where I can almost fly an approach subconciously. Matt |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Do you log airborne time, or aircraft moving time? | Ron Rosenfeld | Owning | 14 | October 24th 04 01:13 AM |
typical total time and PIC time question | AJW | Piloting | 12 | October 15th 04 03:52 AM |
First Time Buyer - High Time Turbo Arrow | [email protected] | Owning | 21 | July 6th 04 07:30 PM |
First time airplane buyer, First time posting | Jessewright8 | Owning | 3 | June 3rd 04 02:08 PM |
they took me back in time and the nsa or japan wired my head and now they know the idea came from me so if your back in time and wounder what happen they change tim liverance history for good. I work at rts wright industries and it a time travel trap | tim liverance | Military Aviation | 0 | August 18th 03 12:18 AM |