ATC Handling of Low-Fuel American Flight

Sam Spade writes:

Egos were worked out of full-motion flight simulators long ago. There
is just too much money and safety involved.

Not according to what I've heard from instructors and pilots who use them.
They are so realistic, in fact, that the same ego problems that plague
real-life cockpits tend to carry over into the simulators. The fact that most
pilots are being watched or tested in a simulator may induce them to behave a
bit more, but that is all.

They are training devices, at best.

They can be training devices if your objective is to fly a real aircraft. If
you don't care about flying real aircraft, they can be ends in themselves.

You keep saying "simulator." Try
saying "flight simulator," then try finding out what ""flight simulator"
means.

A flight simulator is merely one type of simulator.

Elite actually models winds aloft correctly, unlike the crude,
unsophisticated, incorrectly written code for MSFS.

Elite models the ergonomics of the cockpit very poorly indeed, and specialized
hardware is only a slight improvement.

Slightly more accurate?

Yes, slightly more accurate. For every increase in accuracy you get with the
Elite, you lose something. It depends on what you want. It definitely looks
interesting for IFR, but I don't see what it adds for the rest.

You just don't get it. When are you going to
be finished "checking out" the fundamental errors in MSFS I provided to
you here several weeks ago?

When you quantify them in test scenarios that can be carried out with
precision.

What are your FAA ratings and total flight time?

No FAA ratings, as I don't fly the real aircraft and don't need any ratings.

Total flight time is in the thousands of hours; I don't have specific numbers
as every reinstall of the software, etc., resets the counters. I do recall
studying basic ground school textbooks at the age of around eight, and I was
playing with toy airplanes long before that, so the interest in aviation has
proven quite durable. The only actual aircraft in which I've flown (as a
passenger) have been passenger jets, mostly 737s.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Sam Spade writes:


Egos were worked out of full-motion flight simulators long ago. There
is just too much money and safety involved.


Not according to what I've heard from instructors and pilots who use them.
They are so realistic, in fact, that the same ego problems that plague
real-life cockpits tend to carry over into the simulators. The fact that most
pilots are being watched or tested in a simulator may induce them to behave a
bit more, but that is all.

You lost me. I thought you were speaking of egos in flight simulator
design.


You keep saying "simulator." Try
saying "flight simulator," then try finding out what ""flight simulator"
means.


A flight simulator is merely one type of simulator.

Not so in the realm of flight training.


Elite actually models winds aloft correctly, unlike the crude,
unsophisticated, incorrectly written code for MSFS.


Elite models the ergonomics of the cockpit very poorly indeed, and specialized
hardware is only a slight improvement.


Slightly more accurate?


Yes, slightly more accurate. For every increase in accuracy you get with the
Elite, you lose something. It depends on what you want. It definitely looks
interesting for IFR, but I don't see what it adds for the rest.


You just don't get it. When are you going to
be finished "checking out" the fundamental errors in MSFS I provided to
you here several weeks ago?


When you quantify them in test scenarios that can be carried out with
precision.

Yeah, right.


What are your FAA ratings and total flight time?


No FAA ratings, as I don't fly the real aircraft and don't need any ratings.

Total flight time is in the thousands of hours; I don't have specific numbers
as every reinstall of the software, etc., resets the counters. I do recall
studying basic ground school textbooks at the age of around eight, and I was
playing with toy airplanes long before that, so the interest in aviation has
proven quite durable. The only actual aircraft in which I've flown (as a
passenger) have been passenger jets, mostly 737s.


You are so full of ****.

Sam Spade writes:

You lost me. I thought you were speaking of egos in flight simulator
design.

Oh. I don't know anything about that. I suppose it's no different from egos
in other types of software design.

Not so in the realm of flight training.

Even for flight training, there are multiple types of simulators. But not
everyone uses simulators to train for something else.

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