Survival Kits

COLIN LAMB wrote:
One survival tool I take is my wooden glider.

Good point. How easy is it to burn fiberglass?

Should make light, heat, and SMOKE -- no?


Jack

The resin in a composite glider burns very well, but you'll need a loooooong
match :-)

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COLIN LAMB wrote:
One survival tool I take is my wooden glider.

Good point. How easy is it to burn fiberglass?

Should make light, heat, and SMOKE -- no?


Jack

I know of one glass glider that burned because of a short in the electrical
system. Instead of using matches, just short the battery!
"Bert Willing" wrote in message
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The resin in a composite glider burns very well, but you'll need a
loooooong match :-)

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COLIN LAMB wrote:
One survival tool I take is my wooden glider.

Good point. How easy is it to burn fiberglass?

Should make light, heat, and SMOKE -- no?


Jack

Just a reminder, _ALWAYS_ have a fuse mounted on the battery for just
such occurrences....



Larry Goddard

"01" USA





"Jim Vincent" wrote in message
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I know of one glass glider that burned because of a short in the electrical
system. Instead of using matches, just short the battery!
"Bert Willing" wrote in message
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The resin in a composite glider burns very well, but you'll need a
loooooong match :-)

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COLIN LAMB wrote:
One survival tool I take is my wooden glider.

Good point. How easy is it to burn fiberglass?

Should make light, heat, and SMOKE -- no?


Jack

I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...41edf599cacc/#.

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

See http://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/ for details.

Good luck out there.

- John "67R" DeRosa

I would add few more items from my survival kit (most of them are
handy also in non emergencies):
1 - A fully charged cell phone.
2 - A spare cell phone battery.
3 - A handheld radio.
4 - A small handheld GPS if you don't carry a GPS ELT.
5 - A flare.

I try to carry most of it on me for easy access and in case of a
bailout.

Ramy



On Apr 19, 1:58 pm, ContestID67 wrote:
I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...wse_thread/thr....

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

Seehttp://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/for details.

Good luck out there.

- John "67R" DeRosa

I would also add an adapter cables to power cell phones or handheld
VHF from the glider batteries. Preferably allowing them to directly
plug into the battery even if everything else is destroyed. Since my
own glider and our club gliders are standardized power connectors on
Anderson Powerpoles it makes it easy to carry common adapters.

I'd also add printing out a list of contact phone numbers for when the
cell phone dies but you can walk to a farm house etc.

I also have my personal list of emergency equipment posted at
http://www.darrylramm.com/glider-survival-equipment.

Darryl

On Apr 19, 3:11 pm, Ramy wrote:
I would add few more items from my survival kit (most of them are
handy also in non emergencies):
1 - A fully charged cell phone.
2 - A spare cell phone battery.
3 - A handheld radio.
4 - A small handheld GPS if you don't carry a GPS ELT.
5 - A flare.

I try to carry most of it on me for easy access and in case of a
bailout.

Ramy

On Apr 19, 1:58 pm, ContestID67 wrote:

I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...wse_thread/thr....

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

Seehttp://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/fordetails.

Good luck out there.

- John "67R" DeRosa

I just have a cigarette lighter socket mounted under the rear
instrument panel, and carry my standard car charger in the seat pocket
whenever I fly. This way, if I land out, I can recharge my battery
while waiting for the retrieve crew to drive past my location, then I
can call them and tell them how to get back to where I am ;-)

This will only work if the glider electrical system is still
functioning, of course. But in an emergency, if I was able to move
around, I could always take the lighter socket out of the panel, strip
the wires back with my knife (or teeth) and wrap them around the
battery terminals.

The lighter socket is also handy for powering various accessories like
a laptop or PDA charger, car vacuum, or 12V tire pump when working on
the glider. I also use it with a male plug on my charger to recharge
the batteries overnight without removing them. Of course it's not FAA/
PMA approved, so it's only for experimental installations, of course!

On Apr 19, 7:40 pm, "
wrote:
I would also add an adapter cables to power cell phones or handheld
VHF from the glider batteries. Preferably allowing them to directly
plug into the battery even if everything else is destroyed. Since my
own glider and our club gliders are standardized power connectors on
Anderson Powerpoles it makes it easy to carry common adapters.

I'd also add printing out a list of contact phone numbers for when the
cell phone dies but you can walk to a farm house etc.

I also have my personal list of emergency equipment posted athttp://www.darrylramm.com/glider-survival-equipment.

Darryl

On Apr 19, 3:11 pm, Ramy wrote:



I would add few more items from my survival kit (most of them are
handy also in non emergencies):
1 - A fully charged cell phone.
2 - A spare cell phone battery.
3 - A handheld radio.
4 - A small handheld GPS if you don't carry a GPS ELT.
5 - A flare.

I try to carry most of it on me for easy access and in case of a
bailout.

Ramy

On Apr 19, 1:58 pm, ContestID67 wrote:

I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...wse_thread/thr....

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

Seehttp://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/fordetails.

Good luck out there.

- John "67R" DeRosa- Hide quoted text -

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ContestID67 wrote:
I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...41edf599cacc/#.

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

See http://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/ for details.


I think your presentation is very helpful, John.

I would add that under the heading of "Nylon rope (small diameter)"
you might remind everyone that they have hundreds of feet of the
stuff disguised as their parachute lines.

Very strong, very available.


Jack

On Apr 19, 11:23 pm, Jack wrote:
ContestID67 wrote:
I read about the landout along the Allengany Mountains and imagined
the overnight survival adventure the pilot had.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...wse_thread/thr....

It got me thinking about my own glider survival kit that I have built
up over the years. My son will be hiking in the desert region of Utah
and I shared with him what I had in my kit. I then decided to put
together a small web site of the contents. Maybe sharing this will
help someone in the future.

Seehttp://geocities.com/jhderosa/aviation/survival/for details.

I think your presentation is very helpful, John.

I would add that under the heading of "Nylon rope (small diameter)"
you might remind everyone that they have hundreds of feet of the
stuff disguised as their parachute lines.

Very strong, very available.

Jack

I carry a length of 2500lb "Muletape", which is a flat braided
poylester ribbon that you can roll up into a very tight little disk
and slip into a zip-lock sandwich bag. I have a Tost ring tied on one
end in case I need to pull my glider out of a muddy field with the
farmer's tractor (or human mules). I can also use the Tost ring for an
aero tow if I land at a gliderport that only uses Schweizer rings.