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Old March 5th 07, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Default Taking the pledge

Nope, you missed number 1. No responses to MX, and no XXX will be
needed.


_I_ won't respond to him, doesn't mean the rest of you lot will follow

the
same rules. In such case, identify, if you please.


It won't work, under those conditions. It has to be total, from everyone.

What you are saying is like saying I quit smoking cigarettes, but it is ok
if I still smoke cigars.

The oath is for those who will quit posting, not for those that are going

to
continue.

Hopefully, everyone will take it.
--
Jim in NC


In principle, I agree completely. In practice, however, I believe that the
use of the identifier will be most helpfull. As more and more people are
able to filter the troubling part of the conversations, they will diminish
and dissappear.

Try to think of it as a cyber version of Nicarette. (sp?)

Peter :-)


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Old March 5th 07, 12:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Default Taking the pledge

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...


4. You will place the "XXX" identifier in your replies, such that any
and all MX traffic is hereby sent to yonder circular file.

TheSmokingGnu

Try very hard not to answer; but if you must, use the identifier.

Peter


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Old March 5th 07, 04:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default MXB Taking the pledge

Try very hard not to answer; but if you must, use the identifier.

The identifier I'd like to see put into play is
MXB
It stands for "Mx bashing". If your post pertains to bashing (or not
bashing) Mx, the prepend would allow us to skip it. That's what the
real problem (IMEO) is.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
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Old March 7th 07, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger[_4_]
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Default Taking the pledge

On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:56:29 -0800, TheSmokingGnu
wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:
1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...


4. You will place the "XXX" identifier in your replies, such that any
and all MX traffic is hereby sent to yonder circular file.


The XXX is already spoken for as a flame identifier.


TheSmokingGnu

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old March 4th 07, 05:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.


He doesn't bother me a bit. I killfiled him long ago. I only see his
messages when someone else responds to him, and then I ignore that subject.


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Old March 4th 07, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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He doesn't bother me a bit. I killfiled him long ago. I only see his
messages when someone else responds to him, and then I ignore that subject.


I hear ya -- but the trouble with that tactic is that you end up
missing a huge percentage of the threads in this newsgroup. MX *does*
respond to virtually every thread.

Although it makes me feel silly to even suggest it, if only to keep
peace in the group, I think we should try the "no answer"
technique.

I just don't want to see this group reduced to flame wars, like I've
seen in other groups. It gets ugly quickly, and I'm already seeing
some of that here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old March 4th 07, 01:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default Taking the pledge

I just don't want to see this group reduced to flame wars, like I've
seen in other groups.


All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
  #8  
Old March 4th 07, 01:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Jose" wrote

All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.


Would you go along with it, if it looks like the majority of the group
wishes it?
--
Jim in NC


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Old March 4th 07, 02:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default Taking the pledge

All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.

Would you go along with it, if it looks like the majority of the group
wishes it?


I will not engage in flame wars. I don't think I have ever done so
(though I suppose that's a matter of opinion

I will however =not= let the mob however make my decisions for me.
Likewise, I will not make decisions for the mob. The tools for ignoring
are easy to use, and there's no reason to make noise about using them.
If everyone just silently ignored what they didn't want to read, there
would be no problem. Not to say there would be no trolls, just that the
trolls wouldn't be a problem.

So no, I won't join the mob.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
  #10  
Old March 4th 07, 03:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:44:14 -0500, Morgans wrote:

All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.


Would you go along with it, if it looks like the majority of the group
wishes it?


You'll never know the majority of this or any other open group. You only
see the regulars, that's all. And be aware that the group can be "hijacked"
any time by a bunch of MX-like people.

#m
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