Lost One Yesterday

"Tim" wrote:

I spoke a while ago to a friend who had a Baron (I think a B58) - he
eventually sold it looking to get a pressurized one - but that is another
story.

He was trained very well - and went for flights with many CFIs who just
wanted twin time and with other pilots in their Barons. Without fail he
had horror stories of those pilots and CFIs.

No checklists, not caring about vmc, no callouts, nothing. It is no wonder
people kill themselves - the training and checkrides are a joke.

Yep. I have two acquaintences who own twins; a Baron and a C-310. They've
been flying a lot longer than I with no problems. I'd as soon sit on a
toilet full of snakes as fly again with either of them.

Same goes for the instrument checkride around here.


That sounds familiar, too, alas.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

I have about 500 hours in light twins, mostly in a Baron. They are a great
handling airplane, and mine has known ice. No it does not fly as nicely or
is as responsive as a Bonanza or Extra, but it is a stable IFR platform that
cruises at 175K. I have no problem flying it over Lake Michigan. Dual
electrical systems and vacuum supplies are also nice- in other words the
same arguments of single versus twin.

Yes, you do have to stay on top of it if you lose an engine when you're
rotating. I did a number of these at Flight Safety, and it was clearly a
worthwhile experience. Losing an engine during other times of flight is more
of a procedural problem than an true emergency.

Besides, flying upside down isn't a challenge- it's recovering that can be
difficult.

("Dan Luke" wrote)
I'd as soon sit on a toilet full of snakes as fly again with either of
them.


"Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes."

http://homepage.mac.com/j.socha/video/video.html
Flying snake movies - Gliding footage at bottom


Montblack

Montblack wrote:

"Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes."

nice. I was thinking the same thing, Indy.

"Montblack" wrote:

("Dan Luke" wrote)
I'd as soon sit on a toilet full of snakes as fly again with either of
them.


"Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes."

Heh! I thought that one would draw some comment. It's an expression my dad
used to use; I think he picked it up in the Air Force.

http://homepage.mac.com/j.socha/video/video.html
Flying snake movies - Gliding footage at bottom

Cool.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Dan Luke" wrote)
I'd as soon sit on a toilet full of snakes as fly again with either of
them.


"Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes."

http://homepage.mac.com/j.socha/video/video.html
Flying snake movies - Gliding footage at bottom


Montblack


It is quite a word picture!

It also reminds my of my feelings about a Twin Comanche owner I knew about
25 years ago. He was quite comfortable with his own assessment that there
was no need to maintain proficiency in single engine operations--he needed
only to climb out 10 knots above the recommended speed.

A ride was never offered, and would not have been accepted.

Peter