Collision Avoidance Systems for gliders

I just brought one from Sporty's. It picks up the F-16's from Luke AFB
over my house while sitting in my living room. Pretty good!

Now, I am just crossing fingers to win the new 172 Sporty's offer ever
year...:-)

Richard
ASW19
Phoenix AZ

On Mar 6, 7:21 pm, "jeplane" wrote:
I just brought one from Sporty's. It picks up the F-16's from Luke AFB
over my house while sitting in my living room. Pretty good!

Now, I am just crossing fingers to win the new 172 Sporty's offer ever
year...:-)

Richard
ASW19
Phoenix AZ

Items like these can often be purchased from a glider operator who
will appreciate any business you can provide. In many, if not most
cases, you can buy at a lower price, and help keep that gliderport
open so many glider pilots will have a place to fly in the future.

Anyway, The ZAON device is simply a great device. Everyone we have
loaned it to has purchased one. Simple, relatively cheap and it does
exactly what is advertised.

Tom Knauff
Knauff & Grove Soaring Supplies
Ridge Soaring Gliderport

OK, gotta jump in here. It's my opinion that if anyone who has any
interest in soaring (for example, someone reading this group) is
buying something even remotely soaring related, it's a crime not to
buy it from one of the operators like Tom, or Richard or Paul or Tim
or ... (insert here your soaring supplier of choice, sorry if I missed
anybody). The way you keep gliderports and gliding-related businesses
in business is to buy stuff from them. They do a lot for us. If it
weren't for the commercial operators, where would we fly? Who would
tow us? I routinely plan to pay as much as a 5% or 10% premium if I
have to, just to help them out.

This is just the Walmart/Home Depot problem on a smaller scale. It's
probably impossible to beat these big box stores, but if you want to
keep your hometown hardware store in business, (and you would want to,
unless they're really bad price gougers) buy from them whenever you
want something that they have.

Now, I understand wanting to be in the Sporty's sweepstakes, but you
can solve that by buying a chart from them. If you want a Zaon, buy
it from one of the above. Now, I think it's fair to shop for price
between them if you want, but unless it's unavoidable keep it between
them. If you have a long-term relationship with one, maybe one who's
done you favors before just because they're nice guys, make it up by
buying stuff from them, without arguing the price.

Ed


Items like these can often be purchased from a glider operator who
will appreciate any business you can provide. In many, if not most
cases, you can buy at a lower price, and help keep that gliderport
open so many glider pilots will have a place to fly in the future.

Anyway, The ZAON device is simply a great device. Everyone we have
loaned it to has purchased one. Simple, relatively cheap and it does
exactly what is advertised.

Tom Knauff
Knauff & Grove Soaring Supplies
Ridge Soaring Gliderport

Sporty's is a gliding related business:

http://www.flyeca.com/eca/page.aspx?id=22





"flying_monkey" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, gotta jump in here. It's my opinion that if anyone who has any
interest in soaring (for example, someone reading this group) is
buying something even remotely soaring related, it's a crime not to
buy it from one of the operators like Tom, or Richard or Paul or Tim
or ... (insert here your soaring supplier of choice, sorry if I missed
anybody). The way you keep gliderports and gliding-related businesses
in business is to buy stuff from them. They do a lot for us. If it
weren't for the commercial operators, where would we fly? Who would
tow us? I routinely plan to pay as much as a 5% or 10% premium if I
have to, just to help them out.

This is just the Walmart/Home Depot problem on a smaller scale. It's
probably impossible to beat these big box stores, but if you want to
keep your hometown hardware store in business, (and you would want to,
unless they're really bad price gougers) buy from them whenever you
want something that they have.

Now, I understand wanting to be in the Sporty's sweepstakes, but you
can solve that by buying a chart from them. If you want a Zaon, buy
it from one of the above. Now, I think it's fair to shop for price
between them if you want, but unless it's unavoidable keep it between
them. If you have a long-term relationship with one, maybe one who's
done you favors before just because they're nice guys, make it up by
buying stuff from them, without arguing the price.

Ed


Items like these can often be purchased from a glider operator who
will appreciate any business you can provide. In many, if not most
cases, you can buy at a lower price, and help keep that gliderport
open so many glider pilots will have a place to fly in the future.

Anyway, The ZAON device is simply a great device. Everyone we have
loaned it to has purchased one. Simple, relatively cheap and it does
exactly what is advertised.

Tom Knauff
Knauff & Grove Soaring Supplies
Ridge Soaring Gliderport

Michael R wrote:
Sporty's is a gliding related business:

http://www.flyeca.com/eca/page.aspx?id=22

By having a motor glider (operated by another company) parked in front
of their hangar?

Tony V.

I guess you think that Chevrolet and GM are different companies too, huh?



"Tony Verhulst" wrote in message
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Michael R wrote:
Sporty's is a gliding related business:

http://www.flyeca.com/eca/page.aspx?id=22

By having a motor glider (operated by another company) parked in front of
their hangar?

Tony V.

Michael R wrote:
Sporty's is a gliding related business:

"Tony Verhulst" wrote in message
By having a motor glider (operated by another company) parked in front of
their hangar?

Michael R wrote:
I guess you think that Chevrolet and GM are different companies
too, huh?

LOL, no, GM themselves makes it clear that they are the same company.
From http://www.sportys.com/press/bio.html
"Eastern Cincinnati Aviation (ECA), Sporty's closely affiliated fixed
base operator, was founded in 1988 to provide flight instruction, rental
aircraft, service and fuel sales for Clermont County/Sporty's Airport.
ECA also operates, maintains and manages all airport operations on
behalf of Clermont County. Avionics installation and repairs are also
available on the airport through a division of ECA, Cincinnati Avionics."

But, this is beside the point. Even if Sporty's has a financial interest
in ECA. Sporty's would not live or die, let alone notice, if the ECA
glider program folded. The same can not be said for Tom Knauff or Tim
Mara. Lastly, Smith & Wesson makes some *really* nice scissors but I
wouldn't exactly call them a scissors company.

Please support your glider companies.

peace,

Tony V.