chain of events

On Mar 9, 9:39 am, Dave S wrote:
KM wrote:


I dont know about the approach itself, but the power issue is very
believable. If the main transformer for the whole place let go, its VERY
likely that it takes 10 or more seconds for the generator to get up and
running. Also, if I understand right, the generators dont serve the
entire airport, just select facilities and one or two main runways.

Dave, you also have to understand that the ATC facilities are at two
separate locations.Try to imagine (even if it did take that long to
restore power) how long it would take to fly from north of the
approach to 24R, then though final, and then across the final for the
south complex (Not diagonally mind you, but on a typicle intercept
heading)? Also, the copilot would have seen the A340 first, not the
captain.If you tried to check in with the tower and got no response,
wouldnt you go back to approach?
The thing that really gives this story away is that there is no way in
hell that a crew would ignore an RA while on an approach to an airport
with similtaneous approaches to parallel runways. Two crews if you
count the A340 guys.

The only thing that doesn't make any sense.. is why would I only be
reading about it on usenet... and not CNN. A NMAC usually makes big news.
This is your next clue Dave.I went back and read some of "Capt Doug's"
posts and he does know a bit about airliners, but his posts show a
lack of understanding of enough of the detail to actually fly
one.Judging from his posts I would say he is probably a flight
attendant at NWA who flys on the side.And I would say he spends alot
of time talking to pilots about flying.

"KM" wrote in message I went back and read some of "Capt Doug's"
posts and he does know a bit about airliners, but his posts show a
lack of understanding of enough of the detail to actually fly
one.Judging from his posts I would say he is probably a flight
attendant at NWA who flys on the side.And I would say he spends alot
of time talking to pilots about flying.

For those of you who know me personally, this answers itself.

D.

On Mar 9, 5:02 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:
"KM" wrote in message I went back and read some of "Capt Doug's"
posts and he does know a bit about airliners, but his posts show a
lack of understanding of enough of the detail to actually fly
one.Judging from his posts I would say he is probably a flight
attendant at NWA who flys on the side.And I would say he spends alot
of time talking to pilots about flying.

For those of you who know me personally, this answers itself.

D.

Doug, come on dude.You posted some answers to a couple of technical
questions on Boeings that didnt make any sense.My guess is that you
hang out with pilots on layovers alot and pick their brains, and maybe
even read through some manuals.I get the same thing at my work, and
once I met a flight attendant who had 8000 hours.
Furthermore, this is the internet, and how many people here know you
personally?If you are who you say you are, I can respect that, but
just tell me where you are based and the initials of your chief pilot
and I will look it up and offer you an appology.
KM
PS how does an autopilot "mimic the ILS in smooth air"?????

"KM" wrote in message
Doug, come on dude.You posted some answers to a couple of technical
questions on Boeings that didnt make any sense.

Hmm... I don't recall you posting with this name for very long, and yet you
have so much to offer the group (sarcasm).

My guess is that you
hang out with pilots on layovers alot and pick their brains, and maybe
even read through some manuals.I get the same thing at my work, and
once I met a flight attendant who had 8000 hours.

Yes, I do, and yes, you are guessing.

If you are who you say you are, I can respect that,

Hmmm... I've never seen respect shown in such a manner.

just tell me where you are based and the initials of your chief pilot
and I will look it up and offer you an appology.

Hmmm.... Give personal information to a suspected troll? I'm crazy, but
not stupid. You go first. If you aren't in CASS, please don't bother.

PS how does an autopilot "mimic the ILS in smooth air"?????

Pay attention here- If the airplane is trimmed for flying the ILS, and the
autopilot reverts to heading and pitch mode, the airplane will continue a
course very close to the ILS while in calm air. Of course you knew this but
wanted to see if I knew it, right?.

Bottom line is that I don't care to prove anything to you. I don't care what
you think. You can cajole, provoke, instigate, flame, and irritate others
here, but I don't care what you think. Have a good day.

D.

On Mar 9, 6:22 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:

Hmm... I don't recall you posting with this name for very long, and yet you
have so much to offer the group (sarcasm).

How much are you offering this group Doug.Marginaly accurate posts
about airliners?


Yes, I do, and yes, you are guessing.

See, I WAS right.

Hmmm... I've never seen respect shown in such a manner.

Hmmm..., how much respect do you expect when you go around pretending
to be something you are not.

Hmmm.... Give personal information to a suspected troll? I'm crazy, but
not stupid. You go first. If you aren't in CASS, please don't bother.

Suspected troll? Doug, I am not the one who sings his posts "Capt".Is
mentioning a city code personal information.I am not the one
misrepresenting myself.You are kind of being a jerk here, but I will
tell you what, I am based in SLC and I am the 3rd guy on the list
(alphabetically) with these initials.If you email me I will give you
my name and ALPA number.

Pay attention here- If the airplane is trimmed for flying the ILS, and the
autopilot reverts to heading and pitch mode, the airplane will continue a
course very close to the ILS while in calm air. Of course you knew this but
wanted to see if I knew it, right?.

You pay attention here Doug, you dont make a very good liar.

Bottom line is that I don't care to prove anything to you. I don't care what
you think. You can cajole, provoke, instigate, flame, and irritate others
here, but I don't care what you think. Have a good day.

Doug, Lighten up. No one is trying to provoke you.Some of your posts
do not cast the industry in a very favorable light (Like the post
about watching movies), and it is a little irritating when someone who
is masquerading as a airline pilot posts stupid stuff like this.I
would respectfully request that if you are going to continue these
kind of posts that you quit calling yourself "Captain" Doug.
D.

KMU

KM writes:

No one is trying to provoke you.

Calling someone a liar is patent provocation, as are all other personal
attacks.

Some of your posts do not cast the industry in a very favorable
light (Like the post about watching movies), and it is a little
irritating when someone who is masquerading as a airline pilot
posts stupid stuff like this.

Translation: If someone displeases you, you try to discredit him.

I would respectfully request that if you are going to continue these
kind of posts that you quit calling yourself "Captain" Doug.

The beauty of USENET is that your requests, respectful or not, can simply be
ignored.

There are many types of captains, most of whom are not necessarily airline
pilots. And anyone can call himself captain, and he won't be wrong.

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"KM" wrote in message
How much are you offering this group Doug.Marginaly accurate posts
about airliners?

I admit I don't offer the spelling errors that you do,

The Civet is for 25L not the right.
KU

As compared to inaccurate posts like yours - Page 10-2A for KLAX in my
Jepps shows transitions for runways 24R, 24L, 25R, and 25L. Runway 25L was
closed that night for maintenance. You can't even get your initials right.
Is it KU, KM, KMU, or something else?

See, I WAS right.

Let's see.... I talk to pilots on layovers and read manuals. That makes
me a flight attendent. You are the winner... and still guessing.

Suspected troll? Doug, I am not the one who sings his posts "Capt".Is
mentioning a city code personal information.I am not the one
misrepresenting myself.You are kind of being a jerk here, but I will
tell you what, I am based in SLC and I am the 3rd guy on the list
(alphabetically) with these initials.If you email me I will give you
my name and ALPA number.

Just remove 'the' from the reply address. If I'm being a jerk, it's simply
because I treat people the way they treat me. I'm responding to you in the
manner you responded to me. Frankly, I expect more from someone who claims
to be an ALPA member. You read a couple of my posts and assume I'm a liar.
When I do the same to you, you freak out. You can dish it out but you can't
take it. Debating the subject of a post is expected since we come here for a
form of hangar flying. However, you overstep the bounds of good taste by
attacking posters personally. I expect more from someone who claims to be a
professional.

Doug, Lighten up. No one is trying to provoke you.

To which I offer a sample of your writing-

he does know a bit about airliners, but his posts show a
lack of understanding of enough of the detail to actually fly
one.Judging from his posts I would say he is probably a flight
attendant at NWA who flys on the side.And I would say he spends alot
of time talking to pilots about flying.

Hmm.... You call someone a liar but deny that you are provoking. Do you
really consider yourself to be a professional? You don't post in a mature
manner. Such behavior on the line around here would get you on a bunch of
no-fly lists.

Some of your posts
do not cast the industry in a very favorable light (Like the post
about watching movies),

Where is the key that unlocks the eyes of the blind? Many things in the
industry aren't perfect. Don't like it, don't read it.

and it is a little irritating when someone who
is masquerading as a airline pilot posts stupid stuff like this.I
would respectfully request that if you are going to continue these
kind of posts that you quit calling yourself "Captain" Doug.

Let's hope you are man enough to offer a public apology when you discover
the truth that is right in front of you. I also hope that you learn what
respect is.

BTW, I did some checking. My professional pilot friends from SJC are not
aware of any airlines with transport category jets having a pilot base in
SJC. Is that ALPA number you claim to have current and in good standing?

D.

On Mar 11, 5:29 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:

Hey, its my old budy Captain "Dont call me Cliff Claven" Doug.I am
glad I didnt scare you off by asking what you do for a living.


I admit I don't offer the spelling errors that you do,

What can I say I am a product of the public school sistem and I ant
figered out which way to turn on that spell checker thing.

Let's see.... I talk to pilots on layovers and read manuals. That makes
me a flight attendent. You are the winner... and still guessing.

Am I getting hotter?


However, you overstep the bounds of good taste by
attacking posters personally. I expect more from someone who claims to be a
professional.

Now Clifford Douglas Claven, you listen to me.You are overstepping the
bounds of good taste by impersonating an airline pilot.You are showing
the people on this list a lack of respect by insulting their
intelegence.Just look at the Zany story that started this thread.I
would expect more from a profesional!

Doug, Lighten up. No one is trying to provoke you.

To which I offer a sample of your writing-

Leave my writing out of this.Its YOUR writing that is in question.You
post stuff about airliners that is obviously joking and then you take
issue when everyone laughs.If I were you, I would be proud of that.I
get a huge kick out of your posts.The only sad part is that you
dogidly cling to the belief that you fly heavies for a living.

You don't post in a mature
manner.

Dougey, I never claimed to be mature.I will claim that if you can
prove to us that you have flown 747s and Airbuses I will buy you a new
car.

Where is the key that unlocks the eyes of the blind? Many things in the
industry aren't perfect. Don't like it, don't read it.

Lose those darn keys again?


I did some checking. My professional pilot friends from SJC are not
aware of any airlines with transport category jets having a pilot base in
SJC. Is that ALPA number you claim to have current and in good standing?

Dougieeeeee, there is the Clff Claven thing again.I posted Salt Lake
City not SJC you silly goose.Delta airlines does in fact have a base
there.Look up K. Urban on the list 737-800.Now who do you work for?
Now Doug, please take what I am about to post to heart.I know we have
both had a laugh at each others expense but this is seroius now.I
enjoy backwards humor in your posts, but you probably dont want to get
caught impersonating a captain.If anyone at your work found out about
this there would be alot of ostrisism.You would be going out on
layovers all alone and there wouldnt be much of any discusion in your
cockpit.Other pilots are not going to have your sense of humor and it
is just not worth it.

KM writes:

You posted some answers to a couple of technical
questions on Boeings that didnt make any sense.

If giving a wrong answer makes someone a non-pilot, then I'm not sure that
_anyone_ on this newsgroup is a real pilot.

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"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
news
"KM" wrote in message I went back and read some of "Capt Doug's"
posts and he does know a bit about airliners, but his posts show a
lack of understanding of enough of the detail to actually fly
one.Judging from his posts I would say he is probably a flight
attendant at NWA who flys on the side.And I would say he spends alot
of time talking to pilots about flying.

For those of you who know me personally, this answers itself.

Cap'n, he's been trying to extract his foot from his mouth for several
posts.