What do you do in the real world?

Tim writes:

I believe your question was: "This still leaves some unanswered
questions, though. If you are given a heading without a fix, and the
heading does not intercept your flight plan or any approach or any
expected routing, where do you go? In VMC you are clearly expected to
go VFR and land. In IMC, what do you do?"

Right. What's the answer?

If you don't know the regulation and the controller makes a mistake
(they do) and does not give you the fix/reason you are being vectored,
then it is ambiguous. You always need to know why you are being
vectored and what you are being vectored to. So if you get vectors and
are not told anything else other than you are being vectored you need to
ask them why/where to, etc. They are required to give that information
to you.

Maybe, but it's extraordinarily common to just hear "turn left heading 045"
without any further explanation, particularly during an approach.

What do you do then?

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:


I believe your question was: "This still leaves some unanswered
questions, though. If you are given a heading without a fix, and the
heading does not intercept your flight plan or any approach or any
expected routing, where do you go? In VMC you are clearly expected to
go VFR and land. In IMC, what do you do?"


Right. What's the answer?


If you don't know the regulation and the controller makes a mistake
(they do) and does not give you the fix/reason you are being vectored,
then it is ambiguous. You always need to know why you are being
vectored and what you are being vectored to. So if you get vectors and
are not told anything else other than you are being vectored you need to
ask them why/where to, etc. They are required to give that information
to you.


Maybe, but it's extraordinarily common to just hear "turn left heading 045"
without any further explanation, particularly during an approach.

What do you do then?



Are you purposely being dense? I just explained what you do/the
requirements from controllers when issuing vectors to/for something.
When you are getting vectors - you hear that initially/once. They don't
say it every time they give you a new vector. They are required to tell
you where/why you are being vectored. So, your question is moot. The
FARs (that you quoted) allow and require this. If you accept vectors
and do not know what they are for it is your responsibility to correct
that situation.

Do you always argue with people when they give you answers after you
have insulted them, told them don;t know the answer and then actually
get a correct response?

Tim,

Do you always argue with people when they give you answers after you
have insulted them, told them don;t know the answer and then actually
get a correct response?


Uhm, that's his SOP. It's pretty much all he does here.

But you knew that going in ;-)

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