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Old March 12th 07, 02:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
KM
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On Mar 11, 5:29 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:

Hey, its my old budy Captain "Dont call me Cliff Claven" Doug.I am
glad I didnt scare you off by asking what you do for a living.


I admit I don't offer the spelling errors that you do,


What can I say I am a product of the public school sistem and I ant
figered out which way to turn on that spell checker thing.

Let's see.... I talk to pilots on layovers and read manuals. That makes
me a flight attendent. You are the winner... and still guessing.


Am I getting hotter?


However, you overstep the bounds of good taste by
attacking posters personally. I expect more from someone who claims to be a
professional.


Now Clifford Douglas Claven, you listen to me.You are overstepping the
bounds of good taste by impersonating an airline pilot.You are showing
the people on this list a lack of respect by insulting their
intelegence.Just look at the Zany story that started this thread.I
would expect more from a profesional!

Doug, Lighten up. No one is trying to provoke you.


To which I offer a sample of your writing-


Leave my writing out of this.Its YOUR writing that is in question.You
post stuff about airliners that is obviously joking and then you take
issue when everyone laughs.If I were you, I would be proud of that.I
get a huge kick out of your posts.The only sad part is that you
dogidly cling to the belief that you fly heavies for a living.

You don't post in a mature
manner.


Dougey, I never claimed to be mature.I will claim that if you can
prove to us that you have flown 747s and Airbuses I will buy you a new
car.

Where is the key that unlocks the eyes of the blind? Many things in the
industry aren't perfect. Don't like it, don't read it.


Lose those darn keys again?


I did some checking. My professional pilot friends from SJC are not
aware of any airlines with transport category jets having a pilot base in
SJC. Is that ALPA number you claim to have current and in good standing?

Dougieeeeee, there is the Clff Claven thing again.I posted Salt Lake
City not SJC you silly goose.Delta airlines does in fact have a base
there.Look up K. Urban on the list 737-800.Now who do you work for?
Now Doug, please take what I am about to post to heart.I know we have
both had a laugh at each others expense but this is seroius now.I
enjoy backwards humor in your posts, but you probably dont want to get
caught impersonating a captain.If anyone at your work found out about
this there would be alot of ostrisism.You would be going out on
layovers all alone and there wouldnt be much of any discusion in your
cockpit.Other pilots are not going to have your sense of humor and it
is just not worth it.


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Old March 12th 07, 06:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt.Doug
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"KM" wrote in message Leave my writing out of this.Its YOUR writing that
is in question.You
post stuff about airliners that is obviously joking and then you take
issue when everyone laughs.If I were you, I would be proud of that.I
get a huge kick out of your posts.The only sad part is that you
dogidly cling to the belief that you fly heavies for a living.


Your writing WAS in question. Most everyone here can see through your
childish accusations. Your writing has seen to that. I merely egg you on for
entertainment. However now you bore me with the same material post after
post. Please do try to come up with some new personal attacks.

Dougey, I never claimed to be mature.I will claim that if you can
prove to us that you have flown 747s and Airbuses I will buy you a new
car.


I have flown Boeings and Airbusses, not heavies. I know it's hard for you,
being a product of public schools and all, but please keep the facts
straight. I prefer Lambourghini.

Dougieeeeee, there is the Clff Claven thing again.I posted Salt Lake
City not SJC you silly goose.Delta airlines does in fact have a base
there.Look up K. Urban on the list 737-800.


I'm still waiting for that e-mail. Perhaps you could include the phone
number for your ALPA pro standards officer and save me the time of looking
it up.

but you probably dont want to get
caught impersonating a captain.If anyone at your work found out about
this there would be alot of ostrisism. You would be going out on
layovers all alone and there wouldnt be much of any discusion in your
cockpit.Other pilots are not going to have your sense of humor and it
is just not worth it.


"in your cockpit"? "Other pilots"? So now you are back-pedaling and
admitting that I am an airline pilot. Is that as close as you can get to an
apology? Remember, I prefer Lambourghini.

D.



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Old March 12th 07, 12:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
KM
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On Mar 11, 11:31 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:

I have flown Boeings and Airbusses, not heavies. I know it's hard for you,
being a product of public schools and all, but please keep the facts
straight. I prefer Lambourghini.


Douglas, you rascal, flying these things as a flight attendant doesnt
count.Lambourghini? Jese dude, I can barely even spell that let alone
go out and buy one.I have been through two masive rounds of
concesions.I was thinking more along the lines of a Kia.Its cheaper
AND easier to spell.

Is that as close as you can get to an
apology? Remember, I prefer Lambourghini.


Yes Doug, I am apologizing. I am sorry that you cant tell us who you
work for.Now in all seriousness Douglas, for this story to be true, it
would pretty much have to amount to careless and wreckless operation
by two airlines crews. This makes us look stupid.Is that what you
really want? Joking is one thing,But there are people on this list who
do not have enough of a backround in aviation to understand what goes
on in the cockpit of an airliner and trying to con these people is
just not right.
K Urban

D.



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Old March 12th 07, 01:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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KM schrieb:

Lambourghini? Jese dude, I can barely even spell that


Don't feel bad: He can't, either.
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Old March 12th 07, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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("KM"wrote)
Douglas, you rascal, flying these things as a flight attendant doesnt
count.Lambourghini? Jese dude, I can barely even spell that let alone go
out and buy one.I have been through two masive rounds of concesions.I was
thinking more along the lines of a Kia.Its cheaper AND easier to spell.



Well, I finally figured it out.

The space bar is the one keyboard pad without any writing on it, telling you
what it's used for.


Mont Black :-)


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Old March 13th 07, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt.Doug
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"KM" wrote in message
I have been through two masive rounds of
concesions.I was thinking more along the lines of a Kia.Its cheaper
AND easier to spell.


Kia? Is that like a Yugo? Maybe you'd better keep it. My second job pays
decent.

for this story to be true, it
would pretty much have to amount to careless and wreckless operation
by two airlines crews. This makes us look stupid.Is that what you
really want? Joking is one thing,But there are people on this list who
do not have enough of a backround in aviation to understand what goes
on in the cockpit of an airliner


Now, now... We both know that there are pilots in our exalted ranks who
should've been weeded out sometime ago. A few of my colleagues are just
plain stupid. It isn't my style to sweep things under the carpet in order to
maintain an image. I tell them to their face that they are stupid, in a
diplomatic way. I can understand your desire to defend our profession from
assaults by ignorant persons, but I prefer to open things up for discussion
so that the newbies are exposed to alternative viewpoints before they form
opinions.

I recounted the story as it was told to me. I am sure some of it is
embellished, but the incident did take place. You are familiar with ASAP?
That's as much as I can say until the ERC issues a final report. I will say
that some of your misunderstandings may have to do with thinking that Airbus
avionics have the same cues and terminology as Boeing's. I am told that
there are differences but I haven't flown a Boeing with full EFIS.

D.



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Old March 12th 07, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
KM
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On Mar 11, 11:31 pm, "Capt.Doug" wrote:


I'm still waiting for that e-mail. Perhaps you could include the phone
number for your ALPA pro standards officer and save me the time of looking
it up.


Ill save you the time Doug.To respect the guys privacy, I wont mention
his name, but his intials are KH.Log onto the ALPA website, go to the
council 81 (SLC) homepage and there is his email.It so happens that I
have flown with him several times so he would be well qualified to
tell you what a jerk I am.

K. Urban

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Old March 13th 07, 06:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt.Doug
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"KM" wrote in message
Ill save you the time Doug.To respect the guys privacy, I wont mention
his name, but his intials are KH.Log onto the ALPA website, go to the
council 81 (SLC) homepage and there is his email.It so happens that I
have flown with him several times so he would be well qualified to
tell you what a jerk I am.


Watching this group, and also r.a.homebuilt, I have seen what can happen
when someone takes umbrage to another. There are still pending lawsuits
flying between a couple of posters in r.a.h. Personally I have better things
to do than taking the time to explain to my chief pilot why some bozo poster
is trying to cause me trouble by calling him with some silly argument. You
may laugh because that may not be your intentions, but I have seen it happen
to others here several times. For that reason, I don't post personal
information, and I caution you to do the same.

As for your accusations, I am supremely confidant in my professional
standing in the pilot community. I am also supremely confidant that I am a
bigger jerk than you could ever hope to be. If you still don't believe me,
I'll call my buds at your airline and we can meet.

D.


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Old March 13th 07, 08:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Capt.Doug writes:

Watching this group, and also r.a.homebuilt, I have seen what can happen
when someone takes umbrage to another. There are still pending lawsuits
flying between a couple of posters in r.a.h. Personally I have better things
to do than taking the time to explain to my chief pilot why some bozo poster
is trying to cause me trouble by calling him with some silly argument. You
may laugh because that may not be your intentions, but I have seen it happen
to others here several times. For that reason, I don't post personal
information, and I caution you to do the same.


Any call to anyone about USENET posts is usually just dust in the wind, but
unfortunately people who know nothing about USENET tend to take such calls
much more seriously, and assume that Something Terrible has happened when they
learn of someone posting to a newsgroup. Overreaction is the norm.

Then again, overreaction is the norm for many USENET posters, too, especially
the newbies.

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