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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
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Matt Barrow wrote:
Let's say the Corp of Engineers were to build a dam somewhere and
create a new lake and went looking for hotels to be built around
the new lake. Would that be welfare?

How is that any different from any other form of corporate
welfare? Have Americans become such whores?


You can define corporate welfare in a lot of different ways.

Yes.

If a government entity decides that having more people stay in
hotels in their location will be of benefit then there are only so
many things they can do to get more people to open and run hotels.

That's one form.


Now you can argue that it isn't the governments job to promote
tourism, help create jobs, ect... but in the real world they do and
if one city or state is doing it the others have to do it to
compete.

So, your answer to my second question is "yes"?

No it isn't. Welfare, at least in my mind, pay people or companies
to do nothing or pays them more for something than it is worth.

If a city spends $1,000,000 today in the hope of earning $10,000,000
in taxes and other income over the next 10 years that's not welfare
that's investment.

That's the typical political bull**** definition of investment.
Think: RISK. Also, think: proper function of government.

No small wonder the welfare state is out of control: it's adherents
are on both sides of the aisle, and both are so adept at making BS
excuses that should make an adolescent cringe. Thank you, public
education/indoctrination.

I expect that all your comments about Chicago's Daley have just
crashed.


Matt, chill down it's Friday for God's sake. As I said you can argue that
promoting tourism, helping create jobs, ect, isn't the job of government.
But as I also said in the real world that is exactly what they are doing
and if a competing communittee fails to do it that communittee is going to
loose out.

That's a fabricated world. So, again, your answer to my second question?
(Recall the basis of tax monies).

Matt Barrow wrote:

That's a fabricated world. So, again, your answer to my second
question? (Recall the basis of tax monies).

Sure it is a fabricated world but it is the world we live in.

And I understand that you don't feel it is the proper roll of government.
But government is supposed to derive its' power from the people. If the
people not only wants but expects the government to do this type thing that
doesn't make them whores. It makes them consumers of a service.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

That's a fabricated world. So, again, your answer to my second
question? (Recall the basis of tax monies).

Sure it is a fabricated world but it is the world we live in.

And I understand that you don't feel it is the proper roll of government.
But government is supposed to derive its' power from the people. If the
people not only wants but expects the government to do this type thing
that doesn't make them whores. It makes them consumers of a service.

Recall the arguments that if the will of the people was to reinstate
slavery...

Like I said, people can make excuses for _anything_. That seems to be
America's strongest function of late.

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

That's a fabricated world. So, again, your answer to my second
question? (Recall the basis of tax monies).

Sure it is a fabricated world but it is the world we live in.

And I understand that you don't feel it is the proper roll of
government. But government is supposed to derive its' power from the
people. If the people not only wants but expects the government to
do this type thing that doesn't make them whores. It makes them
consumers of a service.

Recall the arguments that if the will of the people was to reinstate
slavery...

Like I said, people can make excuses for _anything_. That seems to be
America's strongest function of late.

So then I can assume that you only drive on toll roads, send your children
to private schools, fly from a private airport, never use ATC, and any of
the thousands of "public services?"

So then I can assume that you only drive on toll roads, send your children
to private schools, fly from a private airport, never use ATC, and any of
the thousands of "public services?"- Hide quoted text -


As far as I'm concerned the US Government does not subsidize general
aviation nearly enough - magnitudes too little...
Even if subsidized each year with just a fraction of what is spent in
ONE DAY on public boat launches, harbors, coast lines, rivers, bays,
lakes, dredging for commercial shipping, national park roads,
wilderness roads, hiking trails, federal highways, federal support for
state highways, trucking, railroads, research, and on, and on, would
have every single GA airport in this country looking like Donald
Trumps personal showplace...
Just a fraction of ONE DAYS expenditures would astound you with what
we could do to subsidize GA airports... And that still leaves 364 and
a fraction days to continue to blow on the others...

And, if we had just ONE whole day of transportation spending
specifically allocated to GA per annum - whooo baby, leather designer
couches in the lounges, eye candy at every front desk, ramp boys 24/7,
cheap hangar space, cheap fuel, spotless concrete ramps and runways,
approach and runway lighting systems like a Los Vegas show, WAAS at
every single airport, high school pilot-ed just like drivers-ed... man
oh man, the gravy, the gravy droooool

denny - don't ever wake me up, I wanna die happy...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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So then I can assume that you only drive on toll roads, send your children
to private schools, fly from a private airport, never use ATC, and any of
the thousands of "public services?"

I do because that's all there is, not because I stole from my neighbor via
the ballot box. Given a choice, I'd revert to the proper function of
government and privatize EVERYTHING except courts, police and military.

Oh, and yes, I did send all my three kids to private schools - K thru HS.
IOW, I paid for mine and my neighbors (f*$&%*ing whores) kids educations.
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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Black Forest, CO