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J.Kahn wrote:
The normal subsonic LD would be very low, about 6 or 7 to 1 at best. The supersonic shockwave riding phenomenon they are talking about is something else though and could I guess be true, although it's surprising no other supersonic a/c has tried to exploit it. The note in Wikipedia regarding the L/D for the XB-70 says: "There is a popular belief and some sources claim that this helps the XB-70 have the highest lift-to-drag ratio on a powered, manned aircraft.[2]", so they clearly state that someone else believes it, but they make no claim to the truth of it. Now, note [2] points to: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~portwi...ft/xb_70a.html which says: "Overall, the XB-70 has the best lift-to-drag ratio of any manned airplane ever built, being bettered only on the unmanned S-21 drone..." As Mr. Kahn points out, the L/D of this aircraft subsonically will be well below 10, which is nothing to speak of. Supersonically, we can reference: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/w...shtml#complift which indicates that at Mach 3, we can expect L/D ratios of 5-6, max. for aircraft using compression lift. Now, that's pretty good for supersonic flight, and if the claims above had said "the best L/D ratio of any manned SUPERSONIC aircraft", it would probably be true. But it's clearly not the highest L/D of any manned aircraft - my COZY MKIV has a glide ratio of about 14:1, which I proved just last December by losing my propeller and gliding down 17 NM to L64 from 9500 ft. Gliders, of course, are much higher - up to 50:1, or even better. -- Marc J. Zeitlin http://www.cozybuilders.org/ Copyright (c) 2007 |
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![]() "Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message ... Gliders, of course, are much higher - up to 50:1, or even better. The 31 meter span ETA is reported to have an L/D of about 75:1. These extremely large wingspan gliders are very hard test for L/D since tiny vertical motions in the atmosphere create too much noise in the data. In any event, whether the glide path rises or falls is far more likely to be caused by atmospheric motions than by the glider's performance. They are as close to perpetual motion machines as has been developed. Bill Daniels |
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