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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... On our flight from Memphis, TN to Iowa City, IA, today, we were diverted around the Lindbergh MOA. Congratulations! When did you add the instrument rating? |
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If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a
divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse... I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck." BT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message thlink.net... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... On our flight from Memphis, TN to Iowa City, IA, today, we were diverted around the Lindbergh MOA. Congratulations! When did you add the instrument rating? |
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![]() "BT" wrote in message ... If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse... I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck." Why do you expect that? |
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I have been on both sides of the mic. If a VFR aircraft chooses to proceed
through a HOT MOA and mix it up with fast fighters doing ACM (air combat maneuvers) and I am not controlling the fighters. He is on his own. BT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news ![]() "BT" wrote in message ... If I'm getting flight following... and the ATC controller recommends a divert around a HOT MOA.. and I refuse... I can expect his next transmission to be, "Roger, radar service terminated, squawk 1200, good day and good luck." Why do you expect that? |
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![]() "BT" wrote in message ... I have been on both sides of the mic. If a VFR aircraft chooses to proceed through a HOT MOA and mix it up with fast fighters doing ACM (air combat maneuvers) and I am not controlling the fighters. He is on his own. Weak stick. |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote Weak stick. How so? He was advised to go around, and chose not to. If it was a good idea to go through, he would not have suggested to go around. I would not fault a controller not wanting any part of a flight through a hot MOA. Are you saying that you would be happy to continue being responsible, as a controller, for a plane flying through a hot MOA? -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... How so? He was advised to go around, and chose not to. If it was a good idea to go through, he would not have suggested to go around. Not the pilot, "weak stick" refers to a poor controller. BT said he has been on both sides of the mic, and would terminate flight following for an aircraft that chose to go through a hot MOA. I would not fault a controller not wanting any part of a flight through a hot MOA. Are you saying that you would be happy to continue being responsible, as a controller, for a plane flying through a hot MOA? Been there, done that. But ATC is not responsible for separation between the using aircraft and VFR aircraft that choose to fly through a MOA. Flight following is simply traffic advisories. |
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On our flight from Memphis, TN to Iowa City, IA, today, we were
diverted around the Lindbergh MOA. Congratulations! When did you add the instrument rating? While it's true that the controller "suggested" a heading of 360 to stay clear of the Lindbergh MOA(s), I believe any good airman would follow that suggestion. There was a VFR Navajo in the MOA (on a photo mission of some sort) that the controller was working the fighters around/above, and you could tell that it was quite a PIA for all concerned. If my diversion helped keep our boys (and me) safer, it was worth every pint of (stupidly expensive) avgas. I've flown close to F-15s when they were in the pattern to land, and it was as if I was standing absolutely stock-still. I can't imagine what flying near them during mock combat in an MOA would be like. (Actually, it would be cool to see, but...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... While it's true that the controller "suggested" a heading of 360 to stay clear of the Lindbergh MOA(s), I believe any good airman would follow that suggestion. I choose to avoid MOAs as well, but choosing to follow an ATC suggestion is not being diverted by ATC. |
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I choose to avoid MOAs as well, but choosing to follow an ATC suggestion is
not being diverted by ATC. And choosing to discuss this with you is not being diverted by logic. :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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