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Old March 21st 07, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Peter R.
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On 3/21/2007 3:55:17 PM, "Jim Burns" wrote:

What's that? Oh it DIDN'T leak! Good for you! You showed those bloody
engineers! Ha! Take that!


Man, that is painful to read.

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Old March 21st 07, 08:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jim Burns[_2_]
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Yep... no doubt literally. I just finished helping an A&P install a new set
of seat rails in a C182. My wife said my hands looked liked I'd been
petting a porcupine. The edges of the lightening holes are wonderful
exfoliating devices, I can't imagine what they can do to you when you're
armpit deep into one.
Jim

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On 3/21/2007 3:55:17 PM, "Jim Burns" wrote:

What's that? Oh it DIDN'T leak! Good for you! You showed those bloody
engineers! Ha! Take that!


Man, that is painful to read.

--
Peter



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Old March 22nd 07, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Peter R. wrote:
On 3/21/2007 3:55:17 PM, "Jim Burns" wrote:

What's that? Oh it DIDN'T leak! Good for you! You showed those bloody
engineers! Ha! Take that!


Man, that is painful to read.

The new tanks now a days are very flexible. They won't stand up by
themselves whereas the old one do, they were very stiff. It is not
necessary to make sure the new tanks are warm before rolling them up.
There are no sharp edges to worry about, at least in the Bonanza and I
don't recall any in the 182. It took about 5 minutes to attach the
snaps. All wiring and fuel transmitter is accessed thru the top of the
wing. The Cessna is a bad deal in this respect. The key is to replace
the fuel transmitter screws with bolt head screws.
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Old March 22nd 07, 01:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Peter R.
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On 3/21/2007 11:10:10 PM, Newps wrote:

The new tanks now a days are very flexible.


Just for my future reference, what are the signs that a bladder needs
replacing? Rubber chunks in the fuel sampler cup? Fuel stains or an obvious
leak under the wing? Something else?

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Old March 22nd 07, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Jim Burns[_2_]
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We've got a 50 hour recurring AD on the Aztec to look for fuel stains under
the trailing edges of our wings. Keep your bladders full, I understand the
most common failure is around the fill tube where they can dry out
prematurely if not full of fuel.
Jim


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Old March 22nd 07, 01:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
dave
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Blue stains under the wings and debris in the fuel sample is what I've
been advised to keep an eye out for. There's a really nice 182 at my
field that was just painted and had a new leather interior installed
shortly before one of the tanks started leaking. Some fuel even got
into the interior. I hope it didn't leave any permanent stains. What a
pity it didn't happen before all the new work was done.

Dave
M35


Peter R. wrote:
On 3/21/2007 11:10:10 PM, Newps wrote:

The new tanks now a days are very flexible.


Just for my future reference, what are the signs that a bladder needs
replacing? Rubber chunks in the fuel sampler cup? Fuel stains or an obvious
leak under the wing? Something else?


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Old March 22nd 07, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Peter R.
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On 3/22/2007 9:32:41 AM, dave wrote:

Blue stains under the wings and debris in the fuel sample is what I've
been advised to keep an eye out for.


Thanks, Jim and Dave.

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Old March 22nd 07, 09:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Newps
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Peter R. wrote:
On 3/21/2007 11:10:10 PM, Newps wrote:
The new tanks now a days are very flexible.


Just for my future reference, what are the signs that a bladder needs
replacing? Rubber chunks in the fuel sampler cup? Fuel stains or an
obvious
leak under the wing? Something else?




I rarely sump my tanks, pretty much only after parking outside
overnight. Look for the blue stain on the underside of the wing
along the wing spar line. Check the fuel vent line thru the inspection
hole, the nipple for the vent line is what broke on my tank causing gas
to leak out every time the bladder was filled. I put up with that for
about 6 months before replacing the tank. Also check the gaskets for
the fuel filler and fuel senders. They can get loose and leak.

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Old March 23rd 07, 01:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
dave
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Why don't you sump your tanks? It's not just water you should be
concerned about. How do you know you're buying clean fuel? I doubt
your FBO would vouch for the cleanliness of the fuel they're selling.

Dave
M35



Newps wrote:



Peter R. wrote:
On 3/21/2007 11:10:10 PM, Newps wrote:
The new tanks now a days are very flexible.

Just for my future reference, what are the signs that a bladder needs
replacing? Rubber chunks in the fuel sampler cup? Fuel stains or an
obvious
leak under the wing? Something else?




I rarely sump my tanks, pretty much only after parking outside
overnight. Look for the blue stain on the underside of the wing
along the wing spar line. Check the fuel vent line thru the inspection
hole, the nipple for the vent line is what broke on my tank causing gas
to leak out every time the bladder was filled. I put up with that for
about 6 months before replacing the tank. Also check the gaskets for
the fuel filler and fuel senders. They can get loose and leak.

 




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