Passed Instrument Checkride!

Congratulations on your checkride! Now when you have your head in the
clouds, you can bring the airplane too!

He asked what was the major problem with ice?
I said the accumulation of the added weight.

He was happy with this? Weight is an issue, but the bigger one is the
change in shape of the airfoil, leading to loss of lift and/or tail
effectiveness. Ice also tends to stay with you even after you exit
icing conditions (unless it gets warm enough for long enough).

Jose
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I think so, he sort of does the oral exam in a conversational way, and
I think I threw that out there while we were talking about it. One of
us might've mentioned the changing of the airfoil's shape, but it's
getting sketchy now...


On Mar 21, 12:27 pm, Jose wrote:
He asked what was the major problem with ice?
I said the accumulation of the added weight.

He was happy with this? Weight is an issue, but the bigger one is the
change in shape of the airfoil, leading to loss of lift and/or tail
effectiveness. Ice also tends to stay with you even after you exit
icing conditions (unless it gets warm enough for long enough).

Jose

I think so, he sort of does the oral exam in a conversational way, and
I think I threw that out there while we were talking about it. One of
us might've mentioned the changing of the airfoil's shape, but it's
getting sketchy now...

Hmmm. Then maybe he wasn't really listening? Or he really =does= think
that the weight of ice is the main factor?

I had a flight instructor (from Florida) giving me instrument lessons
(in the Northeast); after I had spent an hour unsuccessfully removing
ice from the wings, I decided I didn't want to fly in that aircraft. He
acted as if he was ready to go flying in it and was put out that we had
to get another one. This wasn't too long after the airline crash in DC
with a Florida pilot who didn't respect ice.

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose wrote:
Congratulations on your checkride! Now when you have your head in the
clouds, you can bring the airplane too!

He asked what was the major problem with ice?
I said the accumulation of the added weight.


He was happy with this? Weight is an issue, but the bigger one is the
change in shape of the airfoil, leading to loss of lift and/or tail
effectiveness. Ice also tends to stay with you even after you exit
icing conditions (unless it gets warm enough for long enough).

Jose


He obviously didn;t really care about doing a real test - no partial
panel? WTF? I think I read that in the original post.

No wonder people plow into mountains all the time - anyone can pass the
practical. Instructors send their students to the "easiest" DE and the
rest is history (or statistics)

No offense to the OP - I am sure you were prepared and can fly well, but
the local examiner(s) here scare the **** out of me.

The examiner here does all the radio work and the flight is probably
about 40 minutes max. No way you can do three approaches, holds,
partial panel, attitude recovery, takeoff and landing in that amount of
time.

Then there are the DEs who won't do the test in actual. That is just
nuts.

I was surprised also on having no partial panel during the test. I'm
guessing he thinks that the instructor has signed me off, so therefore
I must know it, and he doesn't need to test on all tasks. For talking
on the radio, my examiner didn't want to contact approach for the
cross country portion because he wanted to control where we went.
After the cross country portion, he had me do the talking for the
approaches.

On Mar 21, 8:00 pm, Tim wrote:
He obviously didn;t really care about doing a real test - no partial
panel? WTF? I think I read that in the original post.

No wonder people plow into mountains all the time - anyone can pass the
practical. Instructors send their students to the "easiest" DE and the
rest is history (or statistics)

No offense to the OP - I am sure you were prepared and can fly well, but
the local examiner(s) here scare the **** out of me.

The examiner here does all the radio work and the flight is probably
about 40 minutes max. No way you can do three approaches, holds,
partial panel, attitude recovery, takeoff and landing in that amount of
time.

Then there are the DEs who won't do the test in actual. That is just
nuts.