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Old March 23rd 07, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Maxwell wrote:
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Jose wrote:
A man being harassed for riding a bicycle on a public road because
it is near an airport

Well, from the OP the road was =on= the airport.


Jose is correct - the road I was on was inside the fenced, gated
area of the airport. There are city streets on three sides of the
airport that are outside of the fence, but that wasn't where I was.

Matt Roberds


Agreed. But in our case we have minimum wage security personnel coming
=outside= airport security fences and harassing people parking on the
easement of a 4 lane highway, just because they want to safely park
and watch the jets land. It was a well used area pre 911, and you
could often see entire families there, admiring the big aircraft as
they landed.


That's a whole different ball of poo then. I'd ask the rent a cop why he
thinks he has any jurisdiction outside of the airport grounds. Now parking
beside a 4 lane highway may be a problem in your area but other than that...


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Old March 23rd 07, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Maxwell wrote:
wrote in message
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Jose wrote:
A man being harassed for riding a bicycle on a public road because
it is near an airport

Well, from the OP the road was =on= the airport.

Jose is correct - the road I was on was inside the fenced, gated
area of the airport. There are city streets on three sides of the
airport that are outside of the fence, but that wasn't where I was.

Matt Roberds


Agreed. But in our case we have minimum wage security personnel coming
=outside= airport security fences and harassing people parking on the
easement of a 4 lane highway, just because they want to safely park
and watch the jets land. It was a well used area pre 911, and you
could often see entire families there, admiring the big aircraft as
they landed.


That's a whole different ball of poo then. I'd ask the rent a cop why he
thinks he has any jurisdiction outside of the airport grounds. Now parking
beside a 4 lane highway may be a problem in your area but other than
that...


It's city owned property. To the best of my knowledge, if they ask you to
leave for ANY reason, and you refuse to leave, it's trespassing. They are
just using a post 911 security rational to restrict an area that has never
been restricted before.


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Old March 23rd 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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They are
just using a post 911 security rational to restrict an area that has never
been restricted before.


Ok, this is finally getting to me. It's not just you, but several
posters now.

"rationale".

There. It's off my chest.

Jose
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Old March 23rd 07, 08:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Maxwell wrote:

It's city owned property. To the best of my knowledge, if they ask
you to leave for ANY reason, and you refuse to leave, it's
trespassing. They are just using a post 911 security rational to
restrict an area that has never been restricted before.


Get yourself a picket sign. Doesn't matter what it says. Then you are
exercising your free speech rights on city property.


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Old March 23rd 07, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
Get yourself a picket sign. Doesn't matter what it says. Then you are
exercising your free speech rights on city property.



Then they will exercise their enforcement prerogative...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june07/speech_03-19.html
This is a "fascinating case". I think so anyway. g

Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange, but still... much of
your future right to do the picket sign thing will depend on how this ruling
comes down. Maybe.


Montblack-robes


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Old March 23rd 07, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange

The values we teach in high school will be the ones that will be
enforced upon us by the graduating class when they come to power.

What would you like them to get used to?

Jose
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Old March 24th 07, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Montblack wrote:


Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange, but still... much of
your future right to do the picket sign thing will depend on how this ruling
comes down. Maybe.


Only if I go back to high school. Which is unlikely.
 




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