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Old March 23rd 07, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

In article . com,
"EridanMan" wrote:

In a HP aircraft, everything happens faster...


Huh?
182 speeds are only 10-15 knots higher than a 152.
Too many pilots have been taught by their instructors to fly 25-30 knots
faster than they ought to.
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Old March 23rd 07, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Huh?
182 speeds are only 10-15 knots higher than a 152.


I'd like to see the 152 you fly.

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Old March 24th 07, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

In article ,
Jose wrote:

Huh?
182 speeds are only 10-15 knots higher than a 152.


I'd like to see the 152 you fly.


Two people in a 182, the approach airspeed is between 55-60 kts.
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Old March 24th 07, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Two people in a 182, the approach airspeed is between 55-60 kts.

Ok, but flying is more than just approaching.

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Old March 24th 07, 11:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

In article ,
Jose wrote:

Two people in a 182, the approach airspeed is between 55-60 kts.


Ok, but flying is more than just approaching.


The original comment was that things happen faster due to higher
airspeeds in all phases of flight. My point was that all one has to do
is pull the throttle back and fly slower.
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Old March 24th 07, 01:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

The original comment was that things happen faster due to higher
airspeeds in all phases of flight. My point was that all one has to do
is pull the throttle back and fly slower.


Well, yes and no. By doing so one flies slower, but now in the 182 one
is flying significantly closer to stall, and in the 152 one is flying
right in the sweet zone. Learning to fly, one should learn all the
flight regimes, and become used to cruise in cruise, and approach in
approach.

Jose
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Old March 24th 07, 01:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith[_2_]
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

In article ,
Jose wrote:

The original comment was that things happen faster due to higher
airspeeds in all phases of flight. My point was that all one has to do
is pull the throttle back and fly slower.


Well, yes and no. By doing so one flies slower, but now in the 182 one
is flying significantly closer to stall, and in the 152 one is flying
right in the sweet zone. Learning to fly, one should learn all the
flight regimes, and become used to cruise in cruise, and approach in
approach.


Jose, I don't think you understand that a newer 182 at aft cg max gross
weight has a stall speed of 48 knots. At reduced weight it can drop to
38-42 knots. The 152 stall is down around 35-42 knots.
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Old March 24th 07, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

It is all relative, the mind will adjust in a few minutes to
a faster airplane.


"Jose" wrote in message
t...
| The original comment was that things happen faster due to
higher
| airspeeds in all phases of flight. My point was that all
one has to do
| is pull the throttle back and fly slower.
|
| Well, yes and no. By doing so one flies slower, but now
in the 182 one
| is flying significantly closer to stall, and in the 152
one is flying
| right in the sweet zone. Learning to fly, one should
learn all the
| flight regimes, and become used to cruise in cruise, and
approach in
| approach.
|
| Jose
| --
| Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a
deep need to
| follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob.
Whosoever fully
| understands this holds the world in his hands.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.


 




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