Money grubbing FBO's

I have been told that if an airport takes ANY $$$$ from the Federal
Gov't for airport improvements that they cannot stop me from filling
MY tanks with auto gas on the ramp.

Is this true??

Yes, as long as you don't violate any established safety procedures.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

What Jay said.

In addition, if your airport receives fed money, you are allowed to do
maintenance in your tie down, etc. as long as it doesn't violate safety
procedures.
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I have been told that if an airport takes ANY $$$$ from the Federal
Gov't for airport improvements that they cannot stop me from filling
MY tanks with auto gas on the ramp.

Is this true??

Yes, as long as you don't violate any established safety procedures.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:54:19 -0500, tom418 wrote:

In addition, if your airport receives fed money, you are allowed to do
maintenance in your tie down, etc. as long as it doesn't violate safety
procedures.

Have you a reference for that? This would be terrific news indeed for a
field where our club has some planes based.

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
In addition, if your airport receives fed money, you are allowed to do
maintenance in your tie down, etc. as long as it doesn't violate safety
procedures.

Have you a reference for that? This would be terrific news indeed for a
field where our club has some planes based.

These are part of the standard grant assurances that are agreed to when an
airport accepts funds from the Airport Improvement Program. AOPA has a .pdf
document that covers this :

http://www.aopa.org/asn/airport_compliance.pdf

See page 48 under assurance #22 (Economic Nondiscrimination). It reads in
part :

"It will not exercise or grant any right or privilege which operates
to prevent any person, firm, or corporation operating aircraft
on the airport; from performing any services on its own
aircraft with its own employees (including, but not limited to
maintenance, repair, and fueling) that it may choose to perform."

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Andrew Gideon wrote:
In addition, if your airport receives fed money, you are allowed to do
maintenance in your tie down, etc. as long as it doesn't violate safety
procedures.

Have you a reference for that? This would be terrific news indeed for a
field where our club has some planes based.

These are part of the standard grant assurances that are agreed to when
an
airport accepts funds from the Airport Improvement Program. AOPA has a
.pdf
document that covers this :

http://www.aopa.org/asn/airport_compliance.pdf

See page 48 under assurance #22 (Economic Nondiscrimination). It reads
in
part :

"It will not exercise or grant any right or privilege which operates
to prevent any person, firm, or corporation operating aircraft
on the airport; from performing any services on its own
aircraft with its own employees (including, but not limited to
maintenance, repair, and fueling) that it may choose to perform."


I wonder if refilling oxygen tanks would come under that provision?

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:54:33 +0000, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

"It will not exercise or grant any right or privilege which operates to
prevent any person, firm, or corporation operating aircraft on the
airport; from performing any services on its own aircraft with its own
employees (including, but not limited to maintenance, repair, and fueling)
that it may choose to perform."

Thanks, but this isn't as helpful as I'd hoped. We don't employ A&P/IAs.
We contract with outside firms for those services. Since the mechanics
are not our employees, this means that they can be excluded by the airport
owner/manager.

Am I missing something?

- Andrew

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:54:33 +0000, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

"It will not exercise or grant any right or privilege which operates to
prevent any person, firm, or corporation operating aircraft on the
airport; from performing any services on its own aircraft with its own
employees (including, but not limited to maintenance, repair, and
fueling)
that it may choose to perform."

Thanks, but this isn't as helpful as I'd hoped. We don't employ A&P/IAs.
We contract with outside firms for those services. Since the mechanics
are not our employees, this means that they can be excluded by the airport
owner/manager.

Am I missing something?

"...to prevent any person, ..."

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:46:44 -0700, Matt Barrow wrote:

"It will not exercise or grant any right or privilege which operates to
prevent any person, firm, or corporation operating aircraft on the
airport; from performing any services on its own aircraft with its own
employees (including, but not limited to maintenance, repair, and
fueling)
that it may choose to perform."

Thanks, but this isn't as helpful as I'd hoped. We don't employ
A&P/IAs. We contract with outside firms for those services. Since the
mechanics are not our employees, this means that they can be excluded by
the airport owner/manager.

Am I missing something?

"...to prevent any person, ..."

That statement appears to refer to the owner. That is, any person may
have employees performing services on that person's own aircraft. It
doesn't read (to me, anyway) that the airport must permit "any person" to
do the work on any aircraft.

You see this differently? Please, convince me!

- Andrew