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Old March 27th 07, 09:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
george
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

On Mar 27, 5:38 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
George writes:
Why, if you're correct, do they have train operators present to make
announcements, close doors, and operate the train in case of
unforeseen difficulties
???


A human being is always handy for unexpected situations, and since BART was
one of the first fully automated systems, it had a lot of problems initially.
There may be union requirements for people, too.

The fact that a human operator is aboard a train doesn't mean that the train
can't operate itself in normal service, just as the presence of pilots aboard
an airliner doesn't mean that the airliner cannot fly itself most of the time.

But you claimed that these rapid transit trains were fully automated.
Which is demonstrated by BARTs web page to be wrong

Another error you can chalk up ...


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Old March 27th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

george writes:

But you claimed that these rapid transit trains were fully automated.


As I recall, that was the original design intention. BART is not alone, of
course. Here in Paris, line 14 of the subway system is fully automated, so
much so that it continues to run during strikes because it doesn't require any
human beings in the first place.

In general, if a system can operate normally without human intervention, it is
fully automated, even if exceptional situations require human intervention
(beyond certain design points, all exceptions require human intervention in
any system).

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Old March 28th 07, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

But you claimed that these rapid transit trains were fully automated.


As I recall, that was the original design intention.


Backpedallign fjukkwit



Bertie
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Old March 29th 07, 09:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.disasters.aviation,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.religion.asatru
george
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

On Mar 28, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

george writes:


But you claimed that these rapid transit trains were fully automated.


As I recall, that was the original design intention.


Backpedallign fjukkwit


Like most of his claims it is all so easily refuted :-)
He should stick to games and childrens groups


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Old March 29th 07, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Primary training in a Hi Perf complex acft

"george" wrote in
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On Mar 28, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

george writes:


But you claimed that these rapid transit trains were fully
automated.


As I recall, that was the original design intention.


Backpedallign fjukkwit


Like most of his claims it is all so easily refuted :-)
He should stick to games and childrens groups



I don't think the children would be so easy on him


Bertie
 




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