Another who pays question

No way the shop should pay the gas. You didn't test it and it is part of the
pre-takeoff checklist.

Karl
Had a major radio install on my Baron- a Garmin 530W and 430W. As part of
the install the avionics shop moved the radar display.

On the trip home (the same trip where in IMC the alternator quit) I
turned
the radar on, since there were some storms over my home airport as
indicated
by the nexrad.

Of course, the radar unit was completely dead. When I called the shop,
they
said that they moved the unit, but that no one had checked its operation.

Now, I have to fly an hour each way to the avionics shop to fix the
problem.

Who should pay for the gas? I realistically don't expect them to pay for
two
hours of Baron flying time (which would probably negate any profit they
made
on the installation).

However, is it unreasonable to expect them to pay for some of the gas?

Since when is operating the radar on the ground with people around part of a
pre-flight check list? It certainly isn't in my POH.

Don't you think the installer should have at least checked the operation
prior to releasing the plane?

Since when is operating the radar on the ground with people around part of a
pre-flight check list? It certainly isn't in my POH.

Don't you think the installer should have at least checked the operation
prior to releasing the plane?

The problem with avionics shops is that they seem to use installers
who couldn't cut it at Best Buy installing car stereos. I've watched
'em work on my plane (three different shops, in three different
states) and in every instance the guy who was doing the actual work,
hanging upside down from the seats, was a real mouth-breather who may
have been a good bench-tech, but appeared to have little experience or
common sense.

I always assumed that I got those guys working on my plane because I
fly a lowly Cherokee -- "Hey, let's let Bob learn the ropes on that
guy's plane!" -- but maybe it's universal?

Of course, at some shops a Baron would be considered "entry level" --
so it's all relative.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 29, 9:30 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Since when is operating the radar on the ground with people around part of a
pre-flight check list? It certainly isn't in my POH.

Don't you think the installer should have at least checked the operation
prior to releasing the plane?

The problem with avionics shops is that they seem to use installers
who couldn't cut it at Best Buy installing car stereos. I've watched
'em work on my plane (three different shops, in three different
states) and in every instance the guy who was doing the actual work,
hanging upside down from the seats, was a real mouth-breather who may
have been a good bench-tech, but appeared to have little experience or
common sense.

I always assumed that I got those guys working on my plane because I
fly a lowly Cherokee -- "Hey, let's let Bob learn the ropes on that
guy's plane!" -- but maybe it's universal?

Of course, at some shops a Baron would be considered "entry level" --
so it's all relative.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ok, Jay, I gotta axe, what is a " real mouth- breather"? Jus
curious and all...

Ok, Jay, I gotta axe, what is a " real mouth- breather"? Jus
curious and all...

You know, he's that guy standing there with the dim look in his eye
and his mouth hanging open, often with that weird dried crusty crud in
the corners of his mouth. In the "city version" (circa 1967) he
would have a pocket protecter in his shirt pocket, and perhaps a slide-
rule in his back pocket.

See the movie "Deliverance" for further references to the "country
version".

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Ok, Jay, I gotta axe, what is a " real mouth- breather"? Jus
curious and all...


You know, he's that guy standing there with the dim look in his eye
and his mouth hanging open, often with that weird dried crusty crud in
the corners of his mouth. In the "city version" (circa 1967) he
would have a pocket protecter in his shirt pocket, and perhaps a slide-
rule in his back pocket.

See the movie "Deliverance" for further references to the "country
version".

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay, Jay, Jay,

You don't get it, a mouth-breather typically has an IQ of 60 - 70
whereas your city version typically has an IQ of 140-185. Neither is
very social, but there are many differences.

Margy

It is always on the "lineup" (pre-takeoff) checklist of every RADAR equipped
airplane I've flown.

What airplanes have you flown with RADAR?

RADAR systems have a POH supplement. It's in there.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

Try and read posts more slowly so you can understand better. At your airport
do you have people walking on the runway while you take off?


"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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Since when is operating the radar on the ground with people around part of
a pre-flight check list? It certainly isn't in my POH.

Don't you think the installer should have at least checked the operation
prior to releasing the plane?