The Worst Aviation Movie of All Time

For the number of technical errors in a movie that PRETENDS TO BE
HISTORY, "Midway" is a strong contender!

The account of the battle, so far as I know, is accurate, but the
flying scenes are riddled with errors.

The errors are due, I believe, to the complete lack of any new flying scenes
shot for the movie. All the action scenes are from actual footage or other
movies. Hence, they don't match the real case very often, and you'll see a
character's plane magically change markings or even types.

Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to, Ron. But surely the
makers of that movie could have found more accurate had they made the
effort. I blame it on (a) ignorance or (b) arrogance.

vince norris

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:59:06 -0500, vincent p. norris wrote:

For the number of technical errors in a movie that PRETENDS TO BE
HISTORY, "Midway" is a strong contender!

The account of the battle, so far as I know, is accurate, but the
flying scenes are riddled with errors.

The errors are due, I believe, to the complete lack of any new flying scenes
shot for the movie. All the action scenes are from actual footage or other
movies. Hence, they don't match the real case very often, and you'll see a
character's plane magically change markings or even types.

Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to, Ron. But surely the
makers of that movie could have found more accurate had they made the
effort. I blame it on (a) ignorance or (b) arrogance.

Try c) Apathy. 99% of the movie-going public won't care, so why should the
filmmakers? In a world that can disgorge "Iron Eagle" and three sequels, should
we expect better? :-)

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

Ron Wanttaja

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

I guess I never noticed that! I'll try to pay closer attention next
time I watch. (And I will watch; I love looking at those old
airplanes, even if they're the wrong ones.)

vince norris

In article ,
vincent p. norris wrote:

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

I guess I never noticed that! I'll try to pay closer attention next
time I watch. (And I will watch; I love looking at those old
airplanes, even if they're the wrong ones.)

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

--
Bob Noel
(gave up looking for a particular sig the lawyer will hate)

Bob Noel wrote:
vincent p. norris wrote:

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

I guess I never noticed that! I'll try to pay closer attention next
time I watch. (And I will watch; I love looking at those old
airplanes, even if they're the wrong ones.)

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

But how can you *not* notice the opening fanfare of Star Wars? Or
the closing montage? (hm...don't think I spelled that right)

A characteristic of a great movie score is that it fits perfectly
with the film moment, highlights it...

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

On 31 Mar 2007 19:58:50 GMT, Blanche wrote:

Bob Noel wrote:
vincent p. norris wrote:

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

I guess I never noticed that! I'll try to pay closer attention next
time I watch. (And I will watch; I love looking at those old
airplanes, even if they're the wrong ones.)

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

But how can you *not* notice the opening fanfare of Star Wars? Or
the closing montage? (hm...don't think I spelled that right)

A characteristic of a great movie score is that it fits perfectly
with the film moment, highlights it...

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Or think of "The Guns of Navarrone," "Bridge over the River Kwai," or
"Magnificent Seven."

Don

"Don Tuite" wrote:

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

But how can you *not* notice the opening fanfare of Star Wars? Or
the closing montage? (hm...don't think I spelled that right)

A characteristic of a great movie score is that it fits perfectly
with the film moment, highlights it...

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Or think of "The Guns of Navarrone," "Bridge over the River Kwai," or
"Magnificent Seven."

"The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" or "The Godfather"

In article , Blanche
wrote:

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

But how can you *not* notice the opening fanfare of Star Wars?

by being totally grabbed by the whole experience, not just the music.
The music is there to add/enhance/emphasize, not to scream "HEY
LISTEN TO THE MUSIC"


Or
the closing montage? (hm...don't think I spelled that right)

The closing montage is for the crediots (think snigglet) :-)



A characteristic of a great movie score is that it fits perfectly
with the film moment, highlights it...

yes, which is different than having the audience be thinking about
the music rather than the story. (an exception might be the Cantina
scene in Star Wars, Episode 4, "A New Hope".


What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Don't know. I don't think I've ever seen a Hitchcock movie.

--
Bob Noel
(gave up looking for a particular sig the lawyer will hate)

Bob Noel writes:

by being totally grabbed by the whole experience, not just the music.
The music is there to add/enhance/emphasize, not to scream "HEY
LISTEN TO THE MUSIC"

John Williams did a great deal to bring back this type of music to motion
pictures. He's very good at matching the music to the action, although, in
some cases, the action has been matched to the music (in the case of _Close
Encounters_ for some sequences, as I recall).

If you want a superlative example of music that you don't notice, watch just
about any Warner Bros. cartoon. Carl Stalling had an uncanny mastery of this
type of music (most of the sound effects in the cartoons are in fact musical).

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

Bob Noel wrote:
In article , Blanche
wrote:

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Don't know. I don't think I've ever seen a Hitchcock movie.

(*sputter sputter sputter*)

What? You've never seen the original Psycho? How about Mel Brooks'
"High Anxiety" with the shower scene spoof?

amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...