Old, but interesting topic

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Sammy writes:

The issue we were debating was indeed whether or not the scenario was
silly.

No, we were debating whether or not it's possible. And it is
possible.

Assessments of silliness are subjective and have no place here.

If this were considered a significant risk by the risk management
experts of the world, we'd have a standing procedure on what happens
if both pilots are incapacitated just as we have procedures for water
landings etc. I'm not about to ignore the experts and listen to you.

The absence of a procedure doesn't mean that a given procedure won't
work.

How's it better if a non certified ILS ploughs you into the ground.

It is unlikely to do that.

However even then you'd
be wrong because chances are almost 100% it wouldn't be calibrated
well enough.

How great would the error be, exactly?

Yes again, the experts are wrong and you're right.

No, they simply assume that the A380 will be a reality soon, whereas I
do not.

Ahhhhhh so now you are going to change that set in stone FMC
programming are you?

The FMC is not programmed for a notorious approach to begin with.

FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie

Well yes they are.

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie

Well yes they are.


Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.


Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie

Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e0a56$1_5
@news.bluewin.ch:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.


Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie

Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS


But fjukktard was talking about an airplane making an approach and
landing all unaided.

Unless your outfit allows autolands off an ADF.....


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e0a56$1_5
@news.bluewin.ch:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.

Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie
Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS


But fjukktard was talking about an airplane making an approach and
landing all unaided.

Unless your outfit allows autolands off an ADF.....


Bertie


Well, as I said it can follow the appch laterally and vertically down to
the runway, the landing is not going to be pretty for sure, more a crash
landing and would not like to be on it for sure.

And as I said in the other post the FMS can tune to the ILS and do the
appch using the navaids, again not a pretty landing but probably survivable.

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e0a56$1_5
@news.bluewin.ch:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.

Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV
app. Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie
Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS


But fjukktard was talking about an airplane making an approach and
landing all unaided.

Unless your outfit allows autolands off an ADF.....


Bertie


Well, as I said it can follow the appch laterally and vertically down
to the runway, the landing is not going to be pretty for sure, more a
crash landing and would not like to be on it for sure.

Well, they can all do that. in fact you could do it with even older stuff.
I know someone who did onc e, in fact. Case of having to. But what **** for
brains is talking about is pure holywood crap.

And as I said in the other post the FMS can tune to the ILS and do the
appch using the navaids, again not a pretty landing but probably
survivable.

And what airplane, exactly, are you talking about that can do this?

Bertie