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Old March 31st 07, 11:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..


Then you don't know of all FMCs, because some FMCs will definitely autotune
the ILS. The 747-400 will do this (in fact, it autotunes all the navaids,
although you can override this).

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Old March 31st 07, 12:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Kev writes:

A flight steward, a student pilot, got into the cockpit about one
minute before it ran out of fuel. If he'd gotten in there an hour
before, all sorts of possibilities open up... including perhaps
reviving the pilots (although I'm not clear if that's possible...
anyone know at 34,000' ?)


Yes, they could be revived. However, with help from ATC, the flight
attendant might well have been able to fly the aircraft himself, using
the automation.


ATC don';t know how to fly a 737 you moron.


Bertie
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Old March 31st 07, 12:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:



Bertie
Sorry I have to disagree, an approach can be entered before T/O, in

the
latest FMS it will autotune, and if approach is preselected on the

panel
it will auto tranfer to "green data" and fly the ILS appch.



ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..


Bertie


The Honeywell primus 2000 can do that.


And you'd let it?


Hmm.

Bertie
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Old March 31st 07, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..


Then you don't know of all FMCs, because some FMCs will definitely
autotune the ILS. The 747-400 will do this (in fact, it autotunes all
the navaids, although you can override this).


All FMCs tune navaids fjukkktard, but none do autoapproaches, fjukkwit.


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Old March 31st 07, 12:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

Can't be entered at all. Now way anything flying will do an ILS all
by it's lonesomes from takeoff just by using the FMC.


You're thinking of the runway approach.


Yes, fjukkwit.


That's what you land on.


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Old March 31st 07, 12:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

No, it can't, fjukktard


Yes, it can.


No it can't, fjukkwit.


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Old March 31st 07, 12:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e0a56$1_5

@news.bluewin.ch:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.

Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV
app. Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie
Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS



But fjukktard was talking about an airplane making an approach and
landing all unaided.

Unless your outfit allows autolands off an ADF.....


Bertie



Well, as I said it can follow the appch laterally and vertically down
to the runway, the landing is not going to be pretty for sure, more a
crash landing and would not like to be on it for sure.


Well, they can all do that. in fact you could do it with even older stuff.
I know someone who did onc e, in fact. Case of having to. But what **** for
brains is talking about is pure holywood crap.

And as I said in the other post the FMS can tune to the ILS and do the
appch using the navaids, again not a pretty landing but probably
survivable.


And what airplane, exactly, are you talking about that can do this?

Bertie

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Old March 31st 07, 12:24 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ATC don';t know how to fly a 737 you moron.


ATC can find an instructor who knows how to fly just about anything, if
required.

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Old March 31st 07, 12:25 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

And you'd let it?


Autotuning an ILS is just a matter of looking up the ILS frequency for the
selected runway in a database and tuning it. Why wouldn't a pilot allow the
FMC to do that for him? The pilot would just have to do exactly the same
thing himself, and with a greater probability of making a mistake.

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Old March 31st 07, 12:26 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

All FMCs tune navaids fjukkktard, but none do autoapproaches, fjukkwit.


You've used every one of them?

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