Old, but interesting topic

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

A non pilot wouldn't know what an ils is djikkkwad.

That isn't relevant here.


Yes it is.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Bertie
Sorry I have to disagree, an approach can be entered before T/O, in
the
latest FMS it will autotune, and if approach is preselected on the
panel
it will auto tranfer to "green data" and fly the ILS appch.

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..


Bertie

The Honeywell primus 2000 can do that.


And you'd let it?


Hmm.

Bertie


Why not?

It autotunes the frequency and selects the inbound course of the
approach you have selected, it does about 20 miles out.

You can override it anytime, you check it during your approach briefing.

It does not follow it unless you arm the approach on the panel.

I don't see any problem with it, as with anything on the aircraft you
have the ultimate control, I let the autopilot fly the aircraft most of
the time, but I always monitor what it does.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ATC don';t know how to fly a 737 you moron.

ATC can find an instructor who knows how to fly just about anything, if
required.


Is that right? What instructor is that? Maybe you should leave them your
number, fjukkktard.



Berti e

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

All FMCs tune navaids fjukkktard, but none do autoapproaches, fjukkwit.

You've used every one of them?

Used most of what's flying today..

Did four Cat 3 landings last week, in fact.

You've never even done one.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

And you'd let it?

Autotuning an ILS is just a matter of looking up the ILS frequency for
the selected runway in a database and tuning it. Why wouldn't a pilot
allow the FMC to do that for him? The pilot would just have to do
exactly the same thing himself, and with a greater probability of
making a mistake.

Nope. Automatics **** up all the time, fjukktard. Something else you
don't know, obviously.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in :

And as I said in the other post the FMS can tune to the ILS and do the
appch using the navaids, again not a pretty landing but probably
survivable.

And what airplane, exactly, are you talking about that can do this?

Bertie


Global Express for one, and probably most the latest equipment.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..
Then you don't know of all FMCs, because some FMCs will definitely
autotune the ILS. The 747-400 will do this (in fact, it autotunes all
the navaids, although you can override this).

All FMCs tune navaids fjukkktard, but none do autoapproaches, fjukkwit.


Bertie


Sorry to disagree again, but the latest FMS can tune the ILS frequency
and set the imbound track.

See other posts

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e2c24$1_1
@news.bluewin.ch:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Bertie
Sorry I have to disagree, an approach can be entered before T/O,
in
the
latest FMS it will autotune, and if approach is preselected on the
panel
it will auto tranfer to "green data" and fly the ILS appch.

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..


Bertie

The Honeywell primus 2000 can do that.


And you'd let it?


Hmm.

Bertie


Why not?

It autotunes the frequency and selects the inbound course of the
approach you have selected, it does about 20 miles out.

You can override it anytime, you check it during your approach
briefing.

It does not follow it unless you arm the approach on the panel.



I don't see any problem with it, as with anything on the aircraft you
have the ultimate control, I let the autopilot fly the aircraft most
of
the time, but I always monitor what it does.

Well, you have to.. obviously. They do strange things from time to
time..

Didn't mean to suggest you didn't. But the way you said it sounded like
you would let it nav onto the ils and fly it off it's own bat not using
the ILS at all, just it's own input like an LNAV non precision.
We don't even allow LNAV intercepts of ILS's. We always intercept from
heading select, though we do allow a glidepath intercept from vnav from
below. I wouldn't trust the fjukkwit to do that, though. I wouldn't let
him use a toaster, in fact.



Bertie

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in news:460e2d81$1_3
@news.bluewin.ch:

And as I said in the other post the FMS can tune to the ILS and do
the
appch using the navaids, again not a pretty landing but probably
survivable.

And what airplane, exactly, are you talking about that can do this?

Bertie


Global Express for one, and probably most the latest equipment.


Global Express? Would that be th eGlobal Express X3000A2, or the Global
Express X3000C5? That's a modern derivit\ive of th eold Speedbird 500,
isn't it?





Bertie

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip writes:

ILS freqs won't autotune on anything I know of..
Then you don't know of all FMCs, because some FMCs will definitely
autotune the ILS. The 747-400 will do this (in fact, it autotunes all
the navaids, although you can override this).

All FMCs tune navaids fjukkktard, but none do autoapproaches, fjukkwit.


Bertie


Sorry to disagree again, but the latest FMS can tune the ILS frequency
and set the imbound track.


RTFP. If you set up your FMC, clever as you like, punched your toga
switches and jumped out of the airplane, would it land at your
destination?

I'm guessing "no".


Bertie




Bertie