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Old March 31st 07, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Which the student may or may not have done while you've committed to
landing. I also would not want to be in the pattern with someone suddenly
pulling a 360 on final, either. IMO, the scenrios you're presenting do not
reflect the most courteous or safe options.


Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.

Which, of course, is the point of this entire thread.
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Old March 31st 07, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:


Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.


Never? At any distance?

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Old April 1st 07, 04:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.


Never? At any distance?


You have trouble with the word "cutting"? I believe that says it
all.
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Old April 1st 07, 06:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.


Never? At any distance?



You have trouble with the word "cutting"? I believe that says it
all.




No, that's a very subjective distance. Some idiots out there announce a
five mile final and expect me to follow them. I'll stick a Beech 99
being flown by a freight dog in front of the typical weekend flyer on a
mile and a half final all day long.
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Old April 2nd 07, 05:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

You have trouble with the word "cutting"? I believe that says it
all.


I'm having trouble with your usage of the word. Please explain what you
mean.


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Old April 2nd 07, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BDS[_2_]
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I hope that everyone realizes that if the runway was a conveyor belt none of
this would have happened in the first place.

BDS


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Old April 2nd 07, 05:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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BDS wrote:
I hope that everyone realizes that if the runway was a conveyor belt
none of this would have happened in the first place.

BDS


Oh God don't start that again.


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Old April 2nd 07, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Woellhaf
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Hee, hee. Good one!

"BDS" wrote in message
t...
I hope that everyone realizes that if the runway was a conveyor belt none
of
this would have happened in the first place.

BDS




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Old April 1st 07, 11:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Recently, Jay Honeck posted:

Which the student may or may not have done while you've committed to
landing. I also would not want to be in the pattern with someone
suddenly pulling a 360 on final, either. IMO, the scenrios you're
presenting do not reflect the most courteous or safe options.


Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.

I don't see how following a controller's instructions is discourteous, but
it may not always reflect the best judgement, so there are appropriate
responses for the PIC in those instances, e.g. "unable". I'm not too
surprised that a student wouldn't be comfortable using that option.

Which, of course, is the point of this entire thread.

This thread seemed more like an aero version of "road rage" to me. In a
newsgroup with a lot of folks seeking to learn, that can't be a Good
Thing.

Neil



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Old April 1st 07, 01:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Cutting in front of someone on final, whether under orders or
voluntary, is never safe nor courteous.


I don't see how following a controller's instructions is discourteous


The controller's instructions put both the 172 and I on a course that
-- in the controller's opinion -- was going to cause a collision on
the runway. This is why he sent me around, after clearing me to
land.

You don't find this unusual?

Which, of course, is the point of this entire thread.


This thread seemed more like an aero version of "road rage" to me. In a
newsgroup with a lot of folks seeking to learn, that can't be a Good
Thing.


"Road rage"? What are you *talking* about? No one was angry, no one
raised their voice, and nothing unsafe happened. This is simply a
discussion of a very unusual event. If there's any "rage" being felt
here, it must be yours.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination

 




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