The Worst Aviation Movie of All Time

On Mar 29, 11:40�am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:1175180601.824480.314510
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And I still like The High and the Mighty.. In fact the clip of Wayne
smacking Robert Stack in the mouth was used in my last CRM class!

That should win the all-time award for "Most Inadvertently Hilarious
Scene".

What makes it great is that they are all deadly serious. *Wayne is
almost dead-pan, in a very Leslie Nielsen way, while he's dope-
slapping Stack!

Yes, though I think the CRM class was split on whehter this was a
positive or negative example of good CRM. Depends on the situation, I
guess.
The thing I remember best about that movie, having seen it as a kid, is
when the nav leans over and tells the captain that they've just "passed
the point of no return". dhunh dhunh dhuuuunh!

Wasn't til years later when I actually learned what PNR meant....

Bertie

If the CRM class was split on whether bitch slapping Robert Stack was
good or bad I have to wonder if the class was divided between left and
right seat occupants....

John

"John" wrote in news:1175396277.785720.100100
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On Mar 29, 11:40�am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:1175180601.824480.314510
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

And I still like The High and the Mighty.. In fact the clip of
Wayne
smacking Robert Stack in the mouth was used in my last CRM class!

That should win the all-time award for "Most Inadvertently
Hilarious
Scene".

What makes it great is that they are all deadly serious. *Wayne is
almost dead-pan, in a very Leslie Nielsen way, while he's dope-
slapping Stack!

Yes, though I think the CRM class was split on whehter this was a
positive or negative example of good CRM. Depends on the situation, I
guess.
The thing I remember best about that movie, having seen it as a kid,
is
when the nav leans over and tells the captain that they've just
"passed
the point of no return". dhunh dhunh dhuuuunh!

Wasn't til years later when I actually learned what PNR meant....

Bertie

If the CRM class was split on whether bitch slapping Robert Stack was
good or bad I have to wonder if the class was divided between left and
right seat occupants....


Mm, not really, I don't think. More sort of a question of what kind of
approach you take when someone is loaded up to his back teeth in a bad
situation and how much time you have to deal with it. If it degenarates
to that dgree, well, you haven't got a lot of choice if you want to
live. And real situations have degenerated to that degree, as we know,
and airplanes have crashed because of it. What makes that such a good
clip, though, is it shows the weaknesses we all posess in sharp relief,
and because at least one of those guys picks at a nerve in most, if not
all of us, we ask questions about how we ourselves would manage a
similar situation. In asking those questions, we become far better
prepared to deal with things when, for instance you get stuck in with a
grumpy Captain whose wife is taking him to the cleaners and he hasn't
been laid for months. Or an uppity FO who insists on banging on the
FMCat a rate of 600 WPM and 10% accuracy who won't listen to you until
you rap him on the fingers with a ruler. Hopefully, having looked into
your head and heart you can come up with an approach to open comms so
that this sort of thing never develops to this point.
that's why i think this clip is the perfect CRM tool/.

Seen a few much longer reenactments that say virtually the same thing,
but this caricature says it all and it says it in a way that sinks in.


Bertie