I'm not a real Pilot?

On Apr 1, 10:09 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
Since you have never flown the 'real' thing on what do you base that
claim.?

The real thing has a full suite of avionics.

No. I have a DH82 rating.
Care to tell me that its not a -real- aeroplane

Ultralights and microlights are aircraft and require as much skill to
fly as any other aircraft

The same can be said of simulators. Funny how that dividing line can be set
just about anywhere, isn't it?

You are playing a game and pretending to fly.

Mxsmanic wrote:
If you risk hitting a fence, you're too low to land safely in the
event of an emergency (paragraph (a)), and unless the fence is 500
feet high, you're too low, period (paragraph (c) and/or (b)). Ditto
for the power lines. However you look at it, you violated the FARs.

Maxwell is correct when he states that he did not violate section 91.119 of
the FARs.

You're overlooking something important.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Maxwell writes:


My flight didn't violate any of them moron. Keep guessing and maybe you can
figure out why.


Maybe I should just ask the FAA how they feel about buzzing fences and power
lines, and which FARs it violates. What's your real name?



You have no clue.

Mxsmanic wrote:


Do you think we should stop doing what we are doing because some people
cannot participate in our hobby.


No, but you should stop pretending that it's an accessible hobby. It's a rich
man's hobby. That's one reason why the average age of private pilots is
around 47--it takes them most of their lives to save up the time and money to
get a license, unless they are very rich to begin with.



Bull****.
I know a number of pilots. There are quite a few with a lot of
expendable income, but many others who are just scraping by.

You really need to purge yourself of this anger and resentment to those
who choose to fly and make sacrifices to fly.

Buying a new car is also for rich people. I hear they cost $40,000 or
more. So how is it that people who make $30k per year can afford them?

Maybe instead of bitching and whining about how expensive stuff is, you
should get a job and contribute to society - then you might have some
money to spend.

Not much in this world is free. Stop moaning about the rich folks and
their toys. You are incorrect in your assumptions about those who fly
or own airplanes.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Judah writes:


I don't hear anyone saying that about piloting either. To say that would be
as extreme as saying that one must be wealthy in order to fly. Neither is
accurate.


Many people here have said "you can fly if you really want to," the
implication being that if you are not willing to make heroic sacrifices to
fly, you don't deserve to be a pilot. If you aren't willing to take out a
second mortgage to pay for your lessons, you haven't got the Right Stuff. If
you aren't willing to undergo half a million dollars' worth of tests to prove
that you deserve a medical, you're not worthy to slip the surly bonds of
Earth. If you aren't willing to spend every available waking hour studying or
taking lessons, you're just not serious about flying. All of this
demonstrates a pretty extreme viewpoint to me.

I don't see why any hobby should be accessible only to the most extreme
fanatics. Why is it unacceptable to be moderately interested in aviation, and
yet still have a life outside of flying?



You just refuse to understand. My last medical cost me something like
$150. Lessons cost only about $120 per hour. One need not make heroic
sacrifices. Getting a certificate is not that easy. The flying part is
pretty easy in the end, but the real test is in the commitment and
patience in following through. This is not because it is a trial by
fire or some silly ritual that you believe is inherent in flight
training. It is because of the nature of flying lessons and scheduling
and instructors.
The hard part is not the money - the hard part is sticking with through
the frustrations of cancellations due to weather, instructors, plane
maintenance and learning plateaus.

Not every waking hour needs to be devoted. I went to ground school for
36 hours to get signed off for the written test. Hardly that much time.
I think I finished up in about 70 to 80 hours - mostly due to a change
in location and time off from flying because my employer moved me across
the country.

Your silly notion about flying exclusivity is getting in your way of
understanding the way us GA pilots think and act.

I've never known a pilot to shun someone because of lack of experience
or a rating. Most of us welcome newcomers and interested people and
take friends, family and strangers on flights. The attitudes towards
you have nothing to do with a flying vs non flying delineation - and
more to do with your stubbornness to accept that you don;t know
everything and that you are misunderstanding quite a few things and that
your experience with MS flight sim is not even close to flying a real plane.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Judah writes:


Actually, there are avenues available that allow even people who have failed
a medical to pilot an aircraft. Ultralights, for example.


An ultralight is not an aircraft in my book. A simulator is closer to the
real thing.



Huh? It flies. It has wings and an engine. Closer to the real thing
than the real thing?

Tim writes:

You just refuse to understand. My last medical cost me something like
$150. Lessons cost only about $120 per hour. One need not make heroic
sacrifices.

Amounts like $150 and $120 can be heroic if you don't earn much money.

Getting a certificate is not that easy. The flying part is
pretty easy in the end, but the real test is in the commitment and
patience in following through. This is not because it is a trial by
fire or some silly ritual that you believe is inherent in flight
training. It is because of the nature of flying lessons and scheduling
and instructors.

Actually, it does sound a lot like a hazing ritual.

I've never known a pilot to shun someone because of lack of experience
or a rating.

It's happening right here in this newsgroup.

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Jim Logajan writes:

You're overlooking something important.

What am I overlooking?

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Maxwell writes:

Flying has nothing to do with avionics, they are simply tools used by pilots
and are never required to achieve flight.

Flying has nothing to do with being in the air; it's just a matter of
procedures and controls.

Your sim doesn't have avionics, it just has a graphic representation of
them.

What does a G1000 have?

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She's lucky you're not an otolaryngologist.
Why do you care what a 6th-grader says?

David wrote:
Once again, I'm not a real pilot.
Yesterday my daughter was confronted at school by
some (6th grade) classmates, they said her father was
not a real pilot.