The Worst Aviation Movie of All Time

"Dan Luke" wrote in
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"Don Tuite" wrote:

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

But how can you *not* notice the opening fanfare of Star Wars? Or
the closing montage? (hm...don't think I spelled that right)

A characteristic of a great movie score is that it fits perfectly
with the film moment, highlights it...

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Or think of "The Guns of Navarrone," "Bridge over the River Kwai," or
"Magnificent Seven."

"The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" or "The Godfather"



Dimitri Tiomkin - "High Noon"
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In article , Blanche
wrote:

What would the shower scene in Psycho be *without* the music?

Don't know. I don't think I've ever seen a Hitchcock movie.

(*sputter sputter sputter*)

What? You've never seen the original Psycho? How about Mel Brooks'
"High Anxiety" with the shower scene spoof?

Nope. Haven't seen that one either.


amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...

Why? I'm not really into that genre.

--
Bob Noel
(gave up looking for a particular sig the lawyer will hate)

amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...

Why? I'm not really into that genre.

In our society, in our age group, saying that you've "never seen
Psycho" is like saying you never ate Wheaties, or watched "Star Trek",
or read the Sunday comics.

It's just...unusual.

Personally, I think Hitchcock is over-rated, but I tend to disagree
with movie critics about a lot of things. Still, Psycho is worth
renting, just to see the source of much of our pop culture.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...

Why? I'm not really into that genre.

In our society, in our age group, saying that you've "never seen
Psycho" is like saying you never ate Wheaties, or watched "Star Trek",
or read the Sunday comics.

It's just...unusual.

ok, I'm unusual. I haven't had any wheaties either. :-)

--
Bob Noel
(gave up looking for a particular sig the lawyer will hate)

"John" wrote in news:1175396277.785720.100100
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On Mar 29, 11:40�am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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And I still like The High and the Mighty.. In fact the clip of
Wayne
smacking Robert Stack in the mouth was used in my last CRM class!

That should win the all-time award for "Most Inadvertently
Hilarious
Scene".

What makes it great is that they are all deadly serious. *Wayne is
almost dead-pan, in a very Leslie Nielsen way, while he's dope-
slapping Stack!

Yes, though I think the CRM class was split on whehter this was a
positive or negative example of good CRM. Depends on the situation, I
guess.
The thing I remember best about that movie, having seen it as a kid,
is
when the nav leans over and tells the captain that they've just
"passed
the point of no return". dhunh dhunh dhuuuunh!

Wasn't til years later when I actually learned what PNR meant....

Bertie

If the CRM class was split on whether bitch slapping Robert Stack was
good or bad I have to wonder if the class was divided between left and
right seat occupants....


Mm, not really, I don't think. More sort of a question of what kind of
approach you take when someone is loaded up to his back teeth in a bad
situation and how much time you have to deal with it. If it degenarates
to that dgree, well, you haven't got a lot of choice if you want to
live. And real situations have degenerated to that degree, as we know,
and airplanes have crashed because of it. What makes that such a good
clip, though, is it shows the weaknesses we all posess in sharp relief,
and because at least one of those guys picks at a nerve in most, if not
all of us, we ask questions about how we ourselves would manage a
similar situation. In asking those questions, we become far better
prepared to deal with things when, for instance you get stuck in with a
grumpy Captain whose wife is taking him to the cleaners and he hasn't
been laid for months. Or an uppity FO who insists on banging on the
FMCat a rate of 600 WPM and 10% accuracy who won't listen to you until
you rap him on the fingers with a ruler. Hopefully, having looked into
your head and heart you can come up with an approach to open comms so
that this sort of thing never develops to this point.
that's why i think this clip is the perfect CRM tool/.

Seen a few much longer reenactments that say virtually the same thing,
but this caricature says it all and it says it in a way that sinks in.


Bertie

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:09:22 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
vincent p. norris wrote:

Midway *does* have good music...another John Williams score.

I guess I never noticed that! I'll try to pay closer attention next
time I watch. (And I will watch; I love looking at those old
airplanes, even if they're the wrong ones.)

One of the characteristics of a good movie score is that you
don't notice it.

Well...I'll disagree with you, to some extent. A good score should not be
intrusive, but the best ones enhance the movie. The opening for "The Rocketeer"
is a good example. "Star Wars," as mentioned by others, is another good case.
Each major character had their own musical theme...subtle most of the time, but
they'd be worked together during action sequences.

Lucas went a long, LONG way to build sympathy for Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker
by the time Vader dies in "Return of the Jedi." But the crowning touch was the
"Empire Strike Back" theme, played in a minor key on a single mandolin, just as
Anakin dies.

Or, to slip back to aviation, imagine the scene at the beginning of "Twelve
O'Clock High," when Stovall puts the Toby mug back on the 918th mantel. The
music transitions from a song of peace to a song of war as Stovall's mind
transfers from the tranquility of the abandoned air base to the harshness the
return of a shot-up bomb group.

Ron Wanttaja

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:19:51 GMT, John Theune wrote:

Ken Finney wrote:
"John Theune" wrote in message
news:iU5Ph.7220$J21.5802@trndny03...
Your right Ron, that's what I get for using a error prone carbon based
memory system instead of a silicon based one. At least I googled to get
the useful load figures.

Does that mean that Ron has a silicon based memory system???

Now a plywood based one, I'd believe...

No it means I tried to recall the a/c type from my memory instead of
looking it up online I think Ron's smart enough to verify his
recollection before he posts it

Let me look....uh, yeah, I do. :-)

Ron Wanttaja

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:40:02 -0700, Don Tuite
wrote:

I don't think anyone has mentioned "Those Magnificent Men in their
Flying Machines." Am I alone in remembering it as awful?

I actually enjoy it...depictions of early aviation are just so outright rare,
and the fact that they built all those flying replicas just makes me shiver. :-)

Anyone ever watched "Wings"? I never saw the movie myself, but my
mother had a novelization of the movie (Yes, they did that even back
in the silent days.) that I read several times when I was a kid. (The
plot of "Flyboys" included a few elements of "Wings.")

Years ago, I read the autobiography of Dick Grace, who did the crashes in
"Wings,", including the SPAD that crash-lands in the trenches and flips upside
down. In the book, Grace says that the director wanted to keep filming after
the plane hits, rather than have the aid crews immediately come to the pilot's
rescue. Grace told him that if he was OK after the crash, he'd flip the rudder
back and forth.

And sure enough, you can see the rudder waggle on "Wings"....

Ron Wanttaja

amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...

Why? I'm not really into that genre.

In our society, in our age group, saying that you've "never seen
Psycho" is like saying you never ate Wheaties, or watched "Star Trek",
or read the Sunday comics.

It's just...unusual.

ok, I'm unusual. I haven't had any wheaties either. :-)

Vile tasting. Just the memory makes me gag... :-(

Peter

"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
...

amazing...astonishing....outlandish....he's never seen Psycho...

Why? I'm not really into that genre.

In our society, in our age group, saying that you've "never seen
Psycho" is like saying you never ate Wheaties, or watched "Star Trek",
or read the Sunday comics.

It's just...unusual.

ok, I'm unusual. I haven't had any wheaties either. :-)

Vile tasting. Just the memory makes me gag... :-(


Well, that explains why you're doing what you do, rather than being a pro
athlete. :~)