A question from a lurker

"ManhattanMan" wrote

Anyway, it is very easy to have a ultra compact, cheap video camera these
days... The most expensive item is the monitor, and even then you're
talking $100..

His sseeteup has a good sized monitor, with it. Here is the link:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4744711#Item+Description

I'm not quite sure what or how you managed to fry yours. Try again at an
explanation?
--
Jim in NC

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in
ups.com:

I am glad you started your post with "I have the greatest respect for
pilots". That is exactly the right thing to say if you want help from
us. This is where Mxsmaniac failed. He never told us that we were
special people.

I think you are creating a wrong impression here. From my observations of
your postings in the past, I don't believe it is intentional.

It's not necessary for a non-pilot to announce that he has respect for
pilots before we will answer his questions. The problem is not that Manic
didn't tell us we are special, the problem is that he specifically
disrespects pilots as a group (in a manner that sometimes reminds me of a
racial bigot), and frequently belittles anyone who tries to assist him in
answering his questions.

I should admit that I do in fact believe that I am unique and special. I
believe nearly all people in the world are unique and special. Learning to
fly an airplane safely and demonstrating it to the point that my government
acknowledges it is certainly an accomplishment that I am proud of. But I
have achieved many accomplishments in my life for which I am proud, and
even some for which I am not. No single success or failure in itself
defines me as unique and special. It is all of my traits and experiences
that make me unique and special, and that have allowed me to accomplish the
specific feats that I have and will during my lifetime.

So while I certainly appreciate it when someone else expresses it,
admiration of me is not a prerequisite for me offering respect and courtesy
to another, especially to someone who genuinely wants my advice or help.
Perhaps I am unusually altruistic, but I don't think so. Usenet is defined
by people who would seem to behave the same way.

OTOH, some people are insecure about their being unique and special. So
they put down someone else's accomplishments in order to make their own
seem "better". I believe Manic falls into this category. And I believe some
of the people who treat Manic badly do too. Others are treating Manic that
way because they feel it is the only way to protect the friendly R.A.P.
atmosphere that they value. They do not realize that the unfortunate result
is that they are perpetuating some of the myths that Manic is attempting to
spread. It's not completely their fault - they just can't see clearly.

But the OP should not assume that the ugly Manic threads are representative
of pilot's attitudes toward non-pilots in general. I don't know any pilots
who wouldn't gladly give a non-pilot stranger who expressed interest a tour
of their aircraft. Even those who might not offer a ride because of the
liability fears would at least be willing to show how the plane works on
the ground, and encourage the person to get a low-cost intro flight and
"catch the bug".

We tried to do that for Manic, and he essentially spat in our faces and
told us we are elitist snobs who don't know anything about flying. Many
have not reacted well, and Manic is an expert instigator.

But it's not the typical RAP conversation.

On 4/1/2007 7:07 PM Judah jumped down, turned around, and wrote:

[...]

We tried to do that for Manic, and he essentially spat in our faces and
told us we are elitist snobs who don't know anything about flying. Many
have not reacted well, and Manic is an expert instigator.

But it's not the typical RAP conversation.

There is a solution that is simple, quick, and effective.

Use the killfile (or "filter") feature of your newsreader. Anthony's
not much for nym-shifting, and once the answers to his posts dry up
completely, he'll no longer spend time here. He'll find another forum
in which to demonstrate his rather unique, um, "people skills."
--
dgs

"d.g.s." wrote in news:57bb1fF2c07jlU1
@mid.individual.net:

Use the killfile (or "filter") feature of your newsreader. Anthony's
not much for nym-shifting, and once the answers to his posts dry up
completely, he'll no longer spend time here. He'll find another forum
in which to demonstrate his rather unique, um, "people skills."

Certainly that solves the problem for me, and for anyone else who killfiles
him. However, it doesn't eliminate the blemish that is left on this group by
the people who repeatedly demonstrate conduct unbecoming a gentleman in their
attempts to silence him.

"Judah" wrote in message
. ..
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in
ups.com:

I am glad you started your post with "I have the greatest respect for
pilots". That is exactly the right thing to say if you want help from
us. This is where Mxsmaniac failed. He never told us that we were
special people.

I think you are creating a wrong impression here. From my observations of
your postings in the past, I don't believe it is intentional.

It's not necessary for a non-pilot to announce that he has respect for
pilots before we will answer his questions. The problem is not that Manic
didn't tell us we are special, the problem is that he specifically
disrespects pilots as a group (in a manner that sometimes reminds me of a
racial bigot), and frequently belittles anyone who tries to assist him in
answering his questions.

I should admit that I do in fact believe that I am unique and special. I
believe nearly all people in the world are unique and special. Learning to
fly an airplane safely and demonstrating it to the point that my
government
acknowledges it is certainly an accomplishment that I am proud of. But I
have achieved many accomplishments in my life for which I am proud, and
even some for which I am not. No single success or failure in itself
defines me as unique and special. It is all of my traits and experiences
that make me unique and special, and that have allowed me to accomplish
the
specific feats that I have and will during my lifetime.

So while I certainly appreciate it when someone else expresses it,
admiration of me is not a prerequisite for me offering respect and
courtesy
to another, especially to someone who genuinely wants my advice or help.
Perhaps I am unusually altruistic, but I don't think so. Usenet is defined
by people who would seem to behave the same way.

OTOH, some people are insecure about their being unique and special. So
they put down someone else's accomplishments in order to make their own
seem "better". I believe Manic falls into this category. And I believe
some
of the people who treat Manic badly do too. Others are treating Manic that
way because they feel it is the only way to protect the friendly R.A.P.
atmosphere that they value. They do not realize that the unfortunate
result
is that they are perpetuating some of the myths that Manic is attempting
to
spread. It's not completely their fault - they just can't see clearly.

But the OP should not assume that the ugly Manic threads are
representative
of pilot's attitudes toward non-pilots in general. I don't know any pilots
who wouldn't gladly give a non-pilot stranger who expressed interest a
tour
of their aircraft. Even those who might not offer a ride because of the
liability fears would at least be willing to show how the plane works on
the ground, and encourage the person to get a low-cost intro flight and
"catch the bug".

We tried to do that for Manic, and he essentially spat in our faces and
told us we are elitist snobs who don't know anything about flying. Many
have not reacted well, and Manic is an expert instigator.

But it's not the typical RAP conversation.

Good job, and very well put.

I have had a good bit of experience on the Usenet in a number of different
groups, and never had to _stroke_ anyone, anywhere, to gather a lot of
really good information. And my experience here on RAP has certainly been no
different.

I have seen so many productive threads here, with no regard for who was or
was not actually a pilot, that I refuse to believe 95% of the PILOTS here
even care. The only time actual experience it questioned, is when someone
continues to pass out bad information or opinion, and Anthony insists on
doing both. As well as deliberately trying to irritate people that try to
help him in the mean time. Simply because they have to disagree with his
limited understanding of aviation beyond the limits of simulation.

"d.g.s." wrote in message
...
On 4/1/2007 7:07 PM Judah jumped down, turned around, and wrote:

[...]

We tried to do that for Manic, and he essentially spat in our faces and
told us we are elitist snobs who don't know anything about flying. Many
have not reacted well, and Manic is an expert instigator. But it's not
the typical RAP conversation.

There is a solution that is simple, quick, and effective.

Use the killfile (or "filter") feature of your newsreader. Anthony's
not much for nym-shifting, and once the answers to his posts dry up
completely, he'll no longer spend time here. He'll find another forum
in which to demonstrate his rather unique, um, "people skills."
--

It would be nice if the answer were indeed that simple, but it's not. As
long as we have new comers, and let's hope we always do, Anthony will
continue to feed on them, and frustrate them.

Trolls have eliminated so much experience from our ranks, the actual damage
will never be known. So many very experienced people have disappeared
because of the irritation of children and child like behavior, that all the
groups I monitor continue to degrade every year. And kill files have been
around for a long time.

Maxwell writes:

So many very experienced people have disappeared
because of the irritation of children and child like behavior ...

Some people are immature despite experience. They just need to grow up.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Maxwell writes:

So many very experienced people have disappeared
because of the irritation of children and child like behavior ...

Some people are immature despite experience. They just need to grow up.


Pot, kettle, black.

Morgans wrote:
"ManhattanMan" wrote

Anyway, it is very easy to have a ultra compact, cheap video camera
these days... The most expensive item is the monitor, and even then
you're talking $100..

His sseeteup has a good sized monitor, with it. Here is the link:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4744711#Item+Description

Looks like Wal Mart took a baby monitor and adapted it for automotive use -
very clever! 2.5" monitor most likely has a 2.4GHz receiver built in.

I'm not quite sure what or how you managed to fry yours. Try again
at an explanation?

Here's a picture of a similar camera I started with, the intent was to get
some live video from RC aircraft.
http://www.boostervision.com/boostervision/default.asp
Notice the fat coaxial female plug on the camera/transmitter module (amazing
what they pack away in that little 1" cube!).
This doesn't show the matching male pigtail plug with a battery connector to
snap on a 9V battery. This setup is very common for the budget cameras, and
out of a half dozen vendors, I've only seen one mention that the warranty
was void if that plug was tampered with. NOT ONE actually told the buyer
that the oversized plug contains a 5V regulator, and if you bypassed it, the
module will get very warm before cashing in a few minutes later.. I thought
I'd save some weight, since it was going into a light weight foamie model,
and you can guess the rest. Transmitter still sends a nice blank carrier,
but the CMOS camera is history - luckily it was a cheapie and I've moved on
to a good Sony CCD, seperate 200mw transmitter, and 5V regulator to match..
Here's a shot of it:
http://www.members.cox.net/drpics/pigicam2.jpg

"Maxwell" wrote in
:

Good job, and very well put.

Thanks for the kudos.