Near miss from space junk.

Mxsmanic wrote:

If I were to spin you round and round in your seat for a minute (I'm
sure there'd be no shortage of volunteers - and then get you to stand
up and walk twenty feet in a straight line. Can you do it?

If I have an instrument that shows me how to walk straight, yes.

I call bull**** on this one. No you can't. Yes you do have an instrument
that shows you how to walk straight: your eyeballs (we won't do the
experiment in the dark at first) looking at, say, the road or the walls
around you or other fixed objects of your choice. An NO, emphatically,
you won't be able to walk straight, or even stand up. There are actually
neat and fun devices designed to do just that: spin you around and around
for a while (there was one at Beale AFB where I did the high altitude
training, I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere)

But in reality, aircraft do not spin round and round for minutes at a time
just because they are in clouds.

Not minutes at a time, but HOURS at a time depending on how long
the flight in the clouds lasts. Not quite spinning like the fun training
device I was mentioning, but the effect is just as good; better actually.

--Sylvain

Sylvain writes:

I call bull**** on this one. No you can't. Yes you do have an instrument
that shows you how to walk straight: your eyeballs (we won't do the
experiment in the dark at first) looking at, say, the road or the walls
around you or other fixed objects of your choice. An NO, emphatically,
you won't be able to walk straight, or even stand up. There are actually
neat and fun devices designed to do just that: spin you around and around
for a while (there was one at Beale AFB where I did the high altitude
training, I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere)

You're probably right. I guess that rules out piloting an aircraft in an
unbraced standing position, then.

Not minutes at a time, but HOURS at a time depending on how long
the flight in the clouds lasts. Not quite spinning like the fun training
device I was mentioning, but the effect is just as good; better actually.

But you don't have to walk in an aircraft.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Sylvain writes:

I call bull**** on this one. No you can't. Yes you do have an
instrument
that shows you how to walk straight: your eyeballs (we won't do the
experiment in the dark at first) looking at, say, the road or the walls
around you or other fixed objects of your choice. An NO, emphatically,
you won't be able to walk straight, or even stand up. There are
actually
neat and fun devices designed to do just that: spin you around and
around
for a while (there was one at Beale AFB where I did the high altitude
training, I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere)

You're probably right. I guess that rules out piloting an aircraft in an
unbraced standing position, then.

Not minutes at a time, but HOURS at a time depending on how long
the flight in the clouds lasts. Not quite spinning like the fun training
device I was mentioning, but the effect is just as good; better
actually.

But you don't have to walk in an aircraft.


Take your meds and get back to flying your desk.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Not minutes at a time, but HOURS at a time depending on how long
the flight in the clouds lasts. Not quite spinning like the fun
training device I was mentioning, but the effect is just as good;
better actually.

But you don't have to walk in an aircraft.

So if you are spun around in a chair you won't be equally disoriented?

Judah writes:

So if you are spun around in a chair you won't be equally disoriented?

The disorientation is less important if you are sitting.

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Judah writes:

So if you are spun around in a chair you won't be equally disoriented?

The disorientation is less important if you are sitting.

If what you are sitting in isn't mobile.

Judah writes:

If what you are sitting in isn't mobile.

Even if it is. You don't have to keep your balance while sitting.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Even if it is. You don't have to keep your balance while sitting.

1) You can become dizzy enough to fall off a chair.

2) Keeping your balance within a chair has nothing to do with the
disorientation of flying.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Judah writes:

If what you are sitting in isn't mobile.

Even if it is. You don't have to keep your balance while sitting.


Don't worry about it. It's not a factor in flying a desk.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

If I were to spin you round and round in your seat for a minute (I'm
sure there'd be no shortage of volunteers - and then get you to stand
up and walk twenty feet in a straight line. Can you do it?

If I have an instrument that shows me how to walk straight, yes.

I call bull**** on this one. No you can't. Yes you do have an instrument
that shows you how to walk straight: your eyeballs (we won't do the
experiment in the dark at first) looking at, say, the road or the walls
around you or other fixed objects of your choice. An NO, emphatically,
you won't be able to walk straight, or even stand up. There are actually
neat and fun devices designed to do just that: spin you around and around
for a while (there was one at Beale AFB where I did the high altitude
training, I am sure you can find something similar elsewhere)

But in reality, aircraft do not spin round and round for minutes at a
time
just because they are in clouds.

Not minutes at a time, but HOURS at a time depending on how long
the flight in the clouds lasts. Not quite spinning like the fun training
device I was mentioning, but the effect is just as good; better
actually.


Feel free to call bull**** on all his posts, including the one's you haven't
wasted time reading. You will still be right 99% of the time or better.

All his attendance on this post is proving, is that he still doesn't get it.
No matter what he has read, either here or anywhere else on disorientation,
he can't even understand the concept. Even with a dozen or so people, trying
to explain it a dozen different ways, his is just simply no capable of
understanding it.

Really magnifiys his ignorance on his ability to learn to fly an aircraft
through simulation doesn't it.